This fake went for nearly $400, Unbelievable.
14 people apparently believed it was a genuine 3 legger.
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LOL
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That looks like the counterfeits out of China with the smooth rear leg.
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Here’s a 1916-s merc being passed off as a D by them:
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When they find out it's fake, there's a good chance they'll drop out of the hobby. Very sad.
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I have reported both items mentioned in this thread and urge others to do the same.
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Yes, it's missing all of the characteristics of the real thing. It's not even close.
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I like the disclaimer “Decide for yourself”
That’s my que that they know that they are selling something suspect or knowingly being deceitful.5 -
A very poor quality fake at that.
It’s pretty disheartening to see these counterfeits appearing in such abundance and being bought so readily.Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014
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What a joke buff. Odd that this seller has sold 25k items with only 2 negs in last 12 months and one of them said great item. Perhaps they just decided to sell in the $hundreds rather than $10 to $20 items.
Jim
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At some point, I must confess that (as much as I detest scammers) I have trouble summoning up much sympathy for anyone who pays real money for an uncertified coin being sold on eBay (especially when the rating of said seller is less than 99.9%).
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@124Spider said:
At some point, I must confess that (as much as I detest scammers) I have trouble summoning up much sympathy for anyone who pays real money for an uncertified coin being sold on eBay (especially when the rating of said seller is less than 99.9%).The seller rating is not such a big deal since there's plenty of jerk buyers on ebay who have no qualms about dropping an unfair negative on an ethical seller. But, I have no sympathy for the buyer who won't go to the effort to FIND OUT FOR HIM OR HERSELF what a fake looks like. 3-legged Buffalo fake is one of the easiest fakes there is for the collector with a little knowledge to identify. No tears here for the buyer who will be getting this sorry 3-legged Buffalo fake in the mail.
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@mr1931S said:
@124Spider said:
At some point, I must confess that (as much as I detest scammers) I have trouble summoning up much sympathy for anyone who pays real money for an uncertified coin being sold on eBay (especially when the rating of said seller is less than 99.9%).The seller rating is not such a big deal since there's plenty of jerk buyers on ebay who have no qualms about dropping an unfair negative on an ethical seller. But, I have no sympathy for the buyer who won't go to the effort to FIND OUT FOR HIM OR HERSELF what a fake looks like. 3-legged Buffalo fake is one of the easiest fakes there is for the collector with a little knowledge to identify. No tears here for the buyer who will be getting this sorry 3-legged Buffalo fake in the mail.
A fair point, but not one that I find persuasive in this context.
That seller had 20,000 reviews; it's easy to find prolific sellers with 99.9% (more or less) positive reviews. 99% is ten times the rate of negative reviews as 99.9%; that means something over that many reviews, IMO.
Of course, I wouldn't buy a $400 raw coin from anyone on eBay (or much of anywhere else on the internet, where I'm not seeing the coin in hand), but that's just me.
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Perfectly believable. The more ignorant someone is, the more arrogant they are. These are the same ones who write the negative reviews and expect they are entitled to everything when in fact they are entitled to only one thing. You fall for a fake, my only thought is congratulations to you. Read that as I have no sympathy.
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@mr1931S said:
@124Spider said:
At some point, I must confess that (as much as I detest scammers) I have trouble summoning up much sympathy for anyone who pays real money for an uncertified coin being sold on eBay (especially when the rating of said seller is less than 99.9%).The seller rating is not such a big deal since there's plenty of jerk buyers on ebay who have no qualms about dropping an unfair negative on an ethical seller. But, I have no sympathy for the buyer who won't go to the effort to FIND OUT FOR HIM OR HERSELF what a fake looks like. 3-legged Buffalo fake is one of the easiest fakes there is for the collector with a little knowledge to identify. No tears here for the buyer who will be getting this sorry 3-legged Buffalo fake in the mail.
It's also not a big deal because sellers can get a neg pulled a fairly high percentage of the time by calling ebay and complaining.
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Leave positive feedback---"Thanks for the counterfeit coin that you sold me as a genuine coin."
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You never know. One day soon we may see someone posting this coin here to see if it's worth grading.
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Yep ... unbelievable.
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The flood of fake coins from China is ruining the hobby and as stated will push some potential future collectors away from the hobby.
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@Farmer1961 said:
The flood of fake coins from China is ruining the hobby and as stated will push some potential future collectors away from the hobby.That's true but I'd bet this one is a domestic product. A Chinese fake would be more convincing.
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@bsshog40 said:
You never know. One day soon we may see someone posting this coin here to see if it's worth grading.Or I might see it at the ANACS table at a show I'm working. I hate giving people bad news. It happens way too often, unfortunately.
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I DO feel sorry for the buyers of these coins. I agree that when someone spends this kind of money, it is incumbent upon them to do the homework. But, I am sure some of these people don't know how to do the "right" homework, and rely on bad information from friends or the web. It's just unfortunate to everyone but the seller. :'(
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