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1858/7 Flying Eagle Overdate?

I know this topic has been talked and talked about. I purchased this coin for my book but then after closer look, it looks to me, could be wishful thinking it is the overdate. Hard to tell from pictures as I do not have it yet. It looks definitely, broken wing, I can see the dot above the 8 I circled it. Could just be damage. Just hard to see if there is that line above the last 8. What you think?

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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Possible....but can't tell for sure.

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    Apollo_23Apollo_23 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    Possible....but can't tell for sure.

    Yes it is hard to tell without coin in hand. I am pretty sure that is a broken wing. It is higher then where it should be. Does it mean it's an overdate, I do not know. Worst case it is a decent coin for my book

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Apollo_23 said:

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    Possible....but can't tell for sure.

    Yes it is hard to tell without coin in hand. I am pretty sure that is a broken wing. It is higher then where it should be. Does it mean it's an overdate, I do not know. Worst case it is a decent coin for my book

    It can't move. If it is higher than where it should be, it is NOT.

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    Apollo_23Apollo_23 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Apollo_23 said:

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    Possible....but can't tell for sure.

    Yes it is hard to tell without coin in hand. I am pretty sure that is a broken wing. It is higher then where it should be. Does it mean it's an overdate, I do not know. Worst case it is a decent coin for my book

    It can't move. If it is higher than where it should be, it is NOT.

    I apologize, wrong choice of words. I just meant the wing proportion or angle looked off. If it's not, then it is not.

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    2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The pic is not great and i would want to see the coin in hand (or a betting pic) to be sure, but i believe it is the overdate

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    PeakRaritiesPeakRarities Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Better pics are required.

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    Apollo_23Apollo_23 Posts: 135 ✭✭✭

    Once it is in hard, I will post better pictures. That was the picture the seller had

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    The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The photo is not bad, but the surface of the coin is terrible. A high resolution close-up of the second 8 is needed.

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    Farmer1961Farmer1961 Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    I'm not seeing the dot above the middle of the date plus there is tooling under the eagle.

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    Farmer1961Farmer1961 Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    Also not seeing traces of the 7 to the right of the 8.

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 11,218 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think it is but hard to tell on a well circulated coin and even harder with a poor picture to boot.......

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you can't see the 7 it's not an overdate.

    Makes sense to me. Are collectors really interested in overdates where not a trace of the under digit can be seen?

    Redbook says this:
    "The 1858, 8 over 7, variety, can be identified by a small dot in the field above the first 8-- during production the die was ground down until the 7 was invisible. Coins with the 7 showing are more desirable."

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    redraiderredraider Posts: 367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1931S said:
    If you can't see the 7 it's not an overdate.

    Makes sense to me. Are collectors really interested in overdates where not a trace of the under digit can be seen?

    This one kills me.....A very nice MS64 could command this kind of money on a very good day, but you can't even see the 7 over the last 8. And only $35K!!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/186265592384?hash=item2b5e4b6240:g:lxkAAOSwzT1lr0yz&amdata=enc:AQAIAAAAwCb+viJgmDSordWmBUC8krVV5WgV9EeyfMhMAwpNVgShPfPeqSNEHDmokV2YvSa6QVy9eAA2Fy3j9m+H/52KB4cv4aUmVvUNIhzSNpZSmWipMlCi612+OCs293Mfww6Lul1Qq3eptklLNE6H+VxeabaCA6DHcouYQ3LbiG3RPGnu+aGztRsb6stUrmsMn27X6xAuLbejceGqnPzh3Cz1GWpq21B+ZCBDdyLFTyzYyj8bB0DodvJMG721Twgm6JdCtw==|tkp:Bk9SR9jPtfyqYw

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