1858/7 Flying Eagle Overdate?
Apollo_23
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I know this topic has been talked and talked about. I purchased this coin for my book but then after closer look, it looks to me, could be wishful thinking it is the overdate. Hard to tell from pictures as I do not have it yet. It looks definitely, broken wing, I can see the dot above the 8 I circled it. Could just be damage. Just hard to see if there is that line above the last 8. What you think?
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Possible....but can't tell for sure.
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Yes it is hard to tell without coin in hand. I am pretty sure that is a broken wing. It is higher then where it should be. Does it mean it's an overdate, I do not know. Worst case it is a decent coin for my book
It can't move. If it is higher than where it should be, it is NOT.
I apologize, wrong choice of words. I just meant the wing proportion or angle looked off. If it's not, then it is not.
The pic is not great and i would want to see the coin in hand (or a betting pic) to be sure, but i believe it is the overdate
Better pics are required.
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Once it is in hard, I will post better pictures. That was the picture the seller had
The broken wing tip is a hub variety and is on multiple dies. If you can't see the 7 it's not an overdate.
The photo is not bad, but the surface of the coin is terrible. A high resolution close-up of the second 8 is needed.
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I'm not seeing the dot above the middle of the date plus there is tooling under the eagle.
Also not seeing traces of the 7 to the right of the 8.
I don't think it is but hard to tell on a well circulated coin and even harder with a poor picture to boot.......
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If you can't see the 7 it's not an overdate.
Makes sense to me. Are collectors really interested in overdates where not a trace of the under digit can be seen?
Redbook says this:
"The 1858, 8 over 7, variety, can be identified by a small dot in the field above the first 8-- during production the die was ground down until the 7 was invisible. Coins with the 7 showing are more desirable."
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This one kills me.....A very nice MS64 could command this kind of money on a very good day, but you can't even see the 7 over the last 8. And only $35K!!
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