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GTG 1921 Peace *REVEALED*

JerseyBJerseyB Posts: 76 ✭✭✭
edited January 21, 2024 5:20AM in U.S. Coin Forum

This got delivered this week. Bought the coin through an Ebay auction. The picture are the best I could do. What does everyine think?

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    JerseyBJerseyB Posts: 76 ✭✭✭
    edited January 21, 2024 5:19AM


    Most of you were spot on. Especially those who noticed the die polish as a VAM 1H. The coin is not attributed but it is obvious, probably saved me a few bucks on the sale price. I had been looking for a 21 for my set for a while, I wanted a well struck example and this fit perfectly. I feel the coin is very appropriately graded at 63 and have seen 64s that look very similar.

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2024 2:27PM

    63

    Mr_Spud

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    lermishlermish Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Toss up between Unc Cleaned and 61.

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    DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,957 ✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2024 2:34PM

    I like the look, even the battle scar on the cheek.

    I might guess MS64, just so hard to tell from weak strike and wear on the obverse. But if all the lines in the fields are die polish lines I'll stick with the MS guess.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS63 here as well

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2024 3:04PM

    AU details harshly cleaned

    I’m going to revise my opinion slightly: AU details pvc

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    GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 890 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks like reed marks on both sides.
    MS63

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    Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2024 2:54PM

    I like it as a 63, I don't think I would complain at 64. Although the more I look the more I sway towards 64.
    Also VAM 1H
    Edit: I am now* between 64 and 65 :D That's a real looker!

    Collector, occasional seller

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Satin Proof Dies VAM 1-H, MS63.

    Coin Photographer.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1madman said:
    AU details harshly cleaned

    😮

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1madman

    I can say some odd things at times, but what was the lol on my post for?

    Coin Photographer.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,251 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FlyingAl said:
    @1madman

    I can say some odd things at times, but what was the lol on my post for?

    Perhaps because you didn’t agree with his “AU details harshly cleaned” guess?😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2024 3:03PM

    MS63 here too

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FlyingAl said:
    @1madman

    I can say some odd things at times, but what was the lol on my post for?

    I originally forgot that a version of this coin had the extreme die polish marks. The lol was for the satin idea, but I think you’re right that something is off on the coin’s surfaces. The pictures are somewhat offsetting from each other, but milky shadows on a coin will make me pause.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it at 64.

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    FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks good enough for a 64 to me.
    Quite the difference in appearance between photos.

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    vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Solid 63.

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it's cleaned it's a cleaned I don't think I'd personally mind.
    But if you said it was a 64 I wouldn't doubt it.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,955 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1madman said:

    @FlyingAl said:
    @1madman

    I can say some odd things at times, but what was the lol on my post for?

    I originally forgot that a version of this coin had the extreme die polish marks. The lol was for the satin idea, but I think you’re right that something is off on the coin’s surfaces. The pictures are somewhat offsetting from each other, but milky shadows on a coin will make me pause.

    The die pair that was used for the Satin Proofs was then used for business strikes. It does not mean that they are Satin Proofs.

    Therefore, business strike coins attributed to that die pair are often noted as from Satin Proof dies. PCGS did this until recently.

    Coin Photographer.

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    MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭✭

    Good strike. Good luster. Unfortunate hit on the cheek. I am at 63. I am assuming the lines in the upper left field are die polish.

    image Respectfully, Mark
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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,991 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,227 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it as a 63

    mirabela
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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just viewed 20 1921 Peace$ iin PCGS holders graded MS64 andmost had far more cheek damage than this coin. Many were awful, the ones with fairly clean cheeks showed the owners pride in the asking prices.
    I think MS64 would be my guess. Love the color also. Nice pickup.
    Jim


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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2024 5:52PM

    I'd say MS64. There are a couple of things in the fields I don't like, and few reed marks, but luster seems to be pretty nice. Strike is above average for the issue.

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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    JJMJJM Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 i like the underlined toning in your pic

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    HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 537 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin offer it to me.
    MS64+

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FlyingAl said:

    @1madman said:

    @FlyingAl said:
    @1madman

    I can say some odd things at times, but what was the lol on my post for?

    I originally forgot that a version of this coin had the extreme die polish marks. The lol was for the satin idea, but I think you’re right that something is off on the coin’s surfaces. The pictures are somewhat offsetting from each other, but milky shadows on a coin will make me pause.

    The die pair that was used for the Satin Proofs was then used for business strikes. It does not mean that they are Satin Proofs.

    Therefore, business strike coins attributed to that die pair are often noted as from Satin Proof dies. PCGS did this until recently.

    I didn’t know pcgs used this trickery wording on the labels for these. I’m glad they quit using the added description because it’s glamorizing something that isn’t exactly there. If a coin has the same die polish marks, fine give it a vam number, but don’t attempt to prop it up into something like a specimen/special status when it’s closer to end of life for the dies using normal planchets. I appreciate you telling me this. Learned something new.

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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nailed the GTG :)

    What I like about this one is the stronger strike.
    Nice pickup B)

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