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  • @WillieBoyd2 said:
    Perhaps the US Mint can mint coins with England's King George III on them to commemorate what would have happened if the Revolution hadn't succeeded.

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    Great Britain Guinea 1794, "Spade" reverse, Gold, 25.0mm x 24.5mm, 8.37gm

    :)

    We already kind of do that by slapping a President on nearly every circulating coin. I understand there is a difference because they aren't alive when placed on a circulating coin, but it's still glorifying power.

    I find it mindboggling some people are calling for the new Morgan/Peace Dollars series to be stopped and glad to see the flowing hair design get cancelled in 2024. Oh boy year 100+ of the Jefferson Nickel, Lincoln Cent, Roosevelt Dime, Kennedy Half Dollar. Hooray! What excitement! lol.

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Julian137 said:

    We already kind of do that by slapping a President on nearly every circulating coin. I understand there is a difference because they aren't alive when placed on a circulating coin, but it's still glorifying power.

    I find it mindboggling some people are calling for the new Morgan/Peace Dollars series to be stopped and glad to see the flowing hair design get cancelled in 2024. Oh boy year 100+ of the Jefferson Nickel, Lincoln Cent, Roosevelt Dime, Kennedy Half Dollar. Hooray! What excitement! lol.

    Not my understanding of the current situation.

    The original plan was to issue the "Flowing Hair" items as part of the existing Liberty program. The "design review panels" objected to the "Flowing Hair" design being part of the Liberty program. So, the current plan is to issue a separate, "Flowing Hair" release in 2024, just not as part of the Liberty program.


    Source: https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/mint-changes-plans-for-1794-1-american-liberty-designs

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Will they just make a silver trime so the low budget collector can afford something they make again.... :'(

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @privatecoin said:
    Will they just make a silver trime so the low budget collector can afford something they make again.... :'(

    You're assuming it won't cost $50

  • sfs2002usasfs2002usa Posts: 861 ✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2023 12:52PM

    This may be a very good opportunity for the Mint to
    make a special issue $1 Gold coin at 1 gram weight,
    similar to the $1 Gold issues during 1849 - 1889.
    This coin could have the Flowing Hair Liberty obverse
    design, and be offered (with the Silver $) as a Silver - Gold $ pair.

    I often request this issue when I take the US Mint
    customer surveys.

    It would be great to see a small affordable $1 Gold
    coin issued once again.

    I would also like a mint mark spread. :wink:

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,301 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:

    @Julian137 said:

    We already kind of do that by slapping a President on nearly every circulating coin. I understand there is a difference because they aren't alive when placed on a circulating coin, but it's still glorifying power.

    I find it mindboggling some people are calling for the new Morgan/Peace Dollars series to be stopped and glad to see the flowing hair design get cancelled in 2024. Oh boy year 100+ of the Jefferson Nickel, Lincoln Cent, Roosevelt Dime, Kennedy Half Dollar. Hooray! What excitement! lol.

    Not my understanding of the current situation.

    The original plan was to issue the "Flowing Hair" items as part of the existing Liberty program. The "design review panels" objected to the "Flowing Hair" design being part of the Liberty program. So, the current plan is to issue a separate, "Flowing Hair" release in 2024, just not as part of the Liberty program.


    Source: https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/mint-changes-plans-for-1794-1-american-liberty-designs

    Ah, good to know it's still in the works.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't worry, someones grandson will make a pencil tracing of SBA and it will be used instead of using a mere replica of one of our most beautiful Liberty's.
    Jim


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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @privatecoin said:
    Will they just make a silver trime so the low budget collector can afford something they make again.... :'(

    You're assuming it won't cost $50

    Yes, yes...... $49.99 :D

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Casabrown said:
    [...]
    The minutes of the CCAC meeting will be posted soon on the CCAC website, which will answer your all your questions.
    [...]

    If anyone is interested, I just noticed that the minutes have been posted. The relevant section starts on page #2, section II. Minutes, sub-section #2.

    Additionally, you can find the transcripts and audio files for the OCT-2023 meeting here.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A few interesting points.


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    Or, as it is typically written...

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  • CasabrownCasabrown Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭

    I hope some of you will be able to join the CCAC at our November 28, 2023 Public meeting as it will be my swan song as Chair.

    Have an enjoyable Thanksgiving

  • LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 309 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2023 3:35PM

    @Casabrown said:
    I hope some of you will be able to join the CCAC at our November 28, 2023 Public meeting as it will be my swan song as Chair.

    Have an enjoyable Thanksgiving

    I read the minutes and follow the logic why the Flowing Hair was pulled from the American Liberty series. Noticed where the design is suggested for a silver medal without any mention of a gold coin version. The mints 2024 catalog still shows a 230 year anniversary Flowing Hair Coin.

    Is this a mistake or will there be a 2024 Gold Flowing Hair coin?

    Only gold coin mentioned is the 2029 Incluse Indian…

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  • LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 309 ✭✭✭✭

    @Liquidated said:

    @Casabrown said:
    I hope some of you will be able to join the CCAC at our November 28, 2023 Public meeting as it will be my swan song as Chair.

    Have an enjoyable Thanksgiving

    I read the minutes and follow the logic why the Flowing Hair was pulled from the American Liberty series. Noticed where the design is suggested for a silver medal without any mention of a gold coin version. The mints 2024 catalog still shows a 230 year anniversary Flowing Hair Coin.

    Is this a mistake or will there be a 2024 Gold Flowing Hair coin?

    Only gold coin mentioned is the 2029 Incluse Indian…

    Anyone know?

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I thought the thread was going to be the mint hired Phil Arnold

  • CasabrownCasabrown Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭

    For clarification, it is important to emphasize a couple of points:

    1. As I am not authorized to advise anyone as to what the US Mint will or will not do, I advise you to contact the US Mint directly if this is what you desire.
    2. The Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC) advises the Treasury Secretary on circulating and commemorative coins and metals, most often after receiving presentations from the US Mint's Office of Design Management and comments from the relevant liaisons or stakeholders.
    3. The CCAC did review and voted to recommend to the Treasury Secretary the 2024 Flowing Hair Gold coin and silver medal at the 11/28 public meeting of the CCAC.

    I thank you all for your patience.

  • Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When will the mint release the details of the customer surveys?

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 1, 2023 5:52PM

    More importantly the committee unanimously voted
    "I move that the 1794 Flowing Hair dollar rendition be removed from the agenda and not be considered for the American Liberty gold coin and silver medal program"
    Sounds like it's dead to me. Too bad. @Manifest_Destiny @MetroD @Liquidated @Cranium_Basher73

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2, 2023 2:02AM

    @Namvet69 said:
    More importantly the committee unanimously voted
    "I move that the 1794 Flowing Hair dollar rendition be removed from the agenda and not be considered for the American Liberty gold coin and silver medal program"
    Sounds like it's dead to me. Too bad.

    CCAC recommended against inclusion in the American Liberty program.

    As I understand it, this does not mean that a 'Flowing Hair' release is dead. It just means that it would not be issued as part of the American Liberty series.


    Source: https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/mint-changes-plans-for-1794-1-american-liberty-designs

    Edited to Add:
    While the official CCAC meeting "minutes" for 11/28/23 are not available yet, Dr. Brown (aka @Casabrown) did post the following to the forum on 12/01/23:

    @Casabrown said:
    [...]
    3. The CCAC did review and voted to recommend to the Treasury Secretary the 2024 Flowing Hair Gold coin and silver medal at the 11/28 public meeting of the CCAC.
    [...]

    Link

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