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Mexico 1732-1771 1 reales PCGC & NGC population reports?

Early_Milled_Latin_America Early_Milled_Latin_America Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 1, 2024 1:57PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Are they accurate?

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  • Early_Milled_Latin_America Early_Milled_Latin_America Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2024 1:56PM

    DELETE

  • ELuisELuis Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you have the 1753 Mo M in MS62 NGC?

  • Early_Milled_Latin_America Early_Milled_Latin_America Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2023 5:43PM

    @ELuis said:
    Do you have the 1753 Mo M in MS62 NGC?

    PM sent.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Are they just in bad grades and most decide not to have them graded or are there truly so few out there in the wild?

    It's some of both, but it also depends upon how many you expect to exist.

    I've never seen mintage records (it's not broken out by denomination), but I use Liberty Seated dimes as a baseline where my inference is that the survival rates (but not usually mintages) are noticeably lower.

  • Early_Milled_Latin_America Early_Milled_Latin_America Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2023 12:12PM

    @WCC said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Are they just in bad grades and most decide not to have them graded or are there truly so few out there in the wild?

    It's some of both, but it also depends upon how many you expect to exist.

    I've never seen mintage records (it's not broken out by denomination), but I use Liberty Seated dimes as a baseline where my inference is that the survival rates (but not usually mintages) are noticeably lower.

    I do not know how truly rare some are I just base myself on Brad Yonaka's book and population reports. It is OK will buy some raw coins and send them to NGC until I find better over the years to come. I give them an acetone bath and then rinse under fresh acetone then put them in 2 by 2 mylar flips. Will send batches of 8-12 coins at a time to NGC. The acetone is just precaution for possible PVC.

  • Early_Milled_Latin_America Early_Milled_Latin_America Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 19, 2023 12:25PM

    @WCC said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:
    Are they just in bad grades and most decide not to have them graded or are there truly so few out there in the wild?

    It's some of both, but it also depends upon how many you expect to exist.

    I've never seen mintage records (it's not broken out by denomination), but I use Liberty Seated dimes as a baseline where my inference is that the survival rates (but not usually mintages) are noticeably lower.

    I had gotten to use to the availability of the milled 8 reales from 1732-1771 (not many 1732 or 1733 came up for sale but they did over time). The minors are a different story from those years. I will adjust and buy what I can till I find better. Just buying better coins would be simply to boring and slow. What I have and buy will have to do for the here and now.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This was the first MS65 Mexican 1R graded. I bought it raw in Germany for like $150.

  • Early_Milled_Latin_America Early_Milled_Latin_America Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2023 3:41PM

    @Boosibri said:
    This was the first MS65 Mexican 1R graded. I bought it raw in Germany for like $150.

    You did very well I imagine it now to be 4000$+ congrats and she is a beauty!!! I will not be collecting MS64 or higher simply out of my financial range. I would if I could.

  • @Boosibri said:
    This was the first MS65 Mexican 1R graded. I bought it raw in Germany for like $150.

    What year did you purchase the coin for that price? They have went up a lot since then.

  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    Boosibri said:
    This was the first MS65 Mexican 1R graded. I bought it raw in Germany for like $150.

    What year did you purchase the coin for that price? They have went up a lot since then.

    Circa 2016 +-

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    Boosibri said:
    This was the first MS65 Mexican 1R graded. I bought it raw in Germany for like $150.

    What year did you purchase the coin for that price? They have went up a lot since then.

    Circa 2016 +-

    About that, I was in Ireland so 2014-2015 on the house I was in then. I stole the coin for that price. Sold it for $4500 if I recall 2-3yrs ago and wish I had it back.

  • Early_Milled_Latin_America Early_Milled_Latin_America Posts: 6,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2023 3:42PM

    @Boosibri said:

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    Boosibri said:
    This was the first MS65 Mexican 1R graded. I bought it raw in Germany for like $150.

    What year did you purchase the coin for that price? They have went up a lot since then.

    Circa 2016 +-

    About that, I was in Ireland so 2014-2015 on the house I was in then. I stole the coin for that price. Sold it for $4500 if I recall 2-3yrs ago and wish I had it back.

    At least you made a massive profit congrats!!! How much do you evaluate it in today's market?

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    @Boosibri said:

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    Boosibri said:
    This was the first MS65 Mexican 1R graded. I bought it raw in Germany for like $150.

    What year did you purchase the coin for that price? They have went up a lot since then.

    Circa 2016 +-

    About that, I was in Ireland so 2014-2015 on the house I was in then. I stole the coin for that price. Sold it for $4500 if I recall 2-3yrs ago and wish I had it back.

    At least you made a massive profit congrats!!! How much do you evaluate it in today's market?

    $5500-$6500 I’d guess but could go $4500 or $7500 too.

  • @Boosibri said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    @Boosibri said:

    @JohnnyCache said:

    @PillarDollarCollector said:

    Boosibri said:
    This was the first MS65 Mexican 1R graded. I bought it raw in Germany for like $150.

    What year did you purchase the coin for that price? They have went up a lot since then.

    Circa 2016 +-

    About that, I was in Ireland so 2014-2015 on the house I was in then. I stole the coin for that price. Sold it for $4500 if I recall 2-3yrs ago and wish I had it back.

    At least you made a massive profit congrats!!! How much do you evaluate it in today's market?

    $5500-$6500 I’d guess but could go $4500 or $7500 too.

    I would say you did very well.

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