**Morgan Dollar GTG** ***REVEAL***

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BadaBling
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edited October 26, 2023 11:10AM in U.S. Coin Forum

****This recently came back from PCGS…. Take your best shots!



Nobody came close…. MS68. In-hand the coin looks amazing…. No so much in the phone pics. This was originally housed in an NGC MS67+ CAC holder.

Thanks for playing-

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  • scotty1419
    scotty1419 Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭✭
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    Im very rusty but 5/6?

  • privatecoin
    privatecoin Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS65

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  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

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  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PCGS's photo: MS66
    Your photo: MS65

    My guess: MS65

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,870 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lock 66 first impression.

  • PeakRarities
    PeakRarities Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2023 2:47PM
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    65 seems about right

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  • JerseyB
    JerseyB Posts: 159 ✭✭✭
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    I'll go MS66

  • coastaljerseyguy
    coastaljerseyguy Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65+

  • Morgan13
    Morgan13 Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS65+

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  • anablep
    anablep Posts: 5,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66+ if the luster is there

    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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  • coinbuf
    coinbuf Posts: 12,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66+

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  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66.

  • marcmoish
    marcmoish Posts: 6,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65

  • Mr_Spud
    Mr_Spud Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66

    Mr_Spud

  • ELVIS1
    ELVIS1 Posts: 497 ✭✭✭✭
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    Man the truviews make it a 67
    Your pics make it 65

  • BadaBling
    BadaBling Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
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    @ELVIS1 said:
    Man the truviews make it a 67
    Your pics make it 65

    Funny how that works…. Yet it is indeed the same coin.

  • BadaBling
    BadaBling Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
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    Some history on the coin…. and a minor hint. It was formerly housed in a circa 2011 NGC holder and was CAC’d. It recently crossed to its current PCGS holder and may have received a slight bump. 🤔😏

  • HighRelief
    HighRelief Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS66

  • pursuitofliberty
    pursuitofliberty Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65+


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  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65+

  • johnny010
    johnny010 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    66

  • BadaBling
    BadaBling Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
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    I’ll reveal the grade tomorrow afternoon….

  • SurfinxHI
    SurfinxHI Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm with graded 67, your photos need a dip and 65.

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  • BadaBling
    BadaBling Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
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    @SurfinxHI said:
    I'm with graded 67, your photos need a dip and 65.

    ?? I have no idea what you’re trying to say here… 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • mlittle
    mlittle Posts: 189 ✭✭✭
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    65

  • LeeBone
    LeeBone Posts: 4,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65+

  • BadaBling
    BadaBling Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
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    See the original post above for unedited images…..

  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The pics that were here before are gone now. Definitely didn't look 67 or 68 in those pics.

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  • coinbuf
    coinbuf Posts: 12,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BadaBling said:

    @SurfinxHI said:
    I'm with graded 67, your photos need a dip and 65.

    ?? I have no idea what you’re trying to say here… 🤷🏻‍♂️

    I think surf was just saying that your photos gave the coin a hazy look and made it look lower in grade than it turned out to be.

    Congrats on the upgrade, funny thing is that everyone here seems to think that NGC always overgrades, hmmm. ;)

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  • pmh1nic
    pmh1nic Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Too many small issue can be hiding from view to judge a 68 from a picture. You’re seeing the coin from one angle which seriously limits your ability to see small imperfections that would knock a coin down from 68 to 67 or 67 to 66.

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  • privatecoin
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    Wowser. Can you say cha ching. B)

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  • pointfivezero
    pointfivezero Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Congrats - the TrueView looks like a 68. The phone pictures, not so much.

    Tim

  • LeeBone
    LeeBone Posts: 4,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well then...
    I am officially off my streak of GTG and am fired from future GTG's.
    With the pictures that were on here before I saw a 66 at best.
    68, didn't see that coming.
    Nice results though.

  • Morgan13
    Morgan13 Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Congratulations on the 68.
    Sure did not look like on from the images I saw. That's not to take away from a beautiful coin. I'm sure in hand it's gorgeous!

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  • LeeBone
    LeeBone Posts: 4,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And to think, this was once graded 64 by our hosts...
    Kinda decent $ difference to the OP coin.

  • FlyingAl
    FlyingAl Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Reminds me of a post about an NGC MS68+ where nearly all comments were negative and claiming "NGC got it wrong".

    Funny how fast that changes when the plastic is different.

    I would have guessed 66 for what it's worth.

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  • coinbuf
    coinbuf Posts: 12,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @FlyingAl said:
    Reminds me of a post about an NGC MS68+ where nearly all comments were negative and claiming "NGC got it wrong".

    Funny how fast that changes when the plastic is different.

    I would have guessed 66 for what it's worth.

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  • BadaBling
    BadaBling Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
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    @LeeBone said:
    And to think, this was once graded 64 by our hosts...
    Kinda decent $ difference to the OP coin.

    Clearly that is sooooo much nicer than a 64! Was it in an OGH or Rattler….?

  • BadaBling
    BadaBling Posts: 104 ✭✭✭
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    @FlyingAl said:
    Reminds me of a post about an NGC MS68+ where nearly all comments were negative and claiming "NGC got it wrong".

    Funny how fast that changes when the plastic is different.

    I would have guessed 66 for what it's worth.

    PCGS bias and the idea that only NGC can overgrade a coin is a tired narrative.

    I think NGC had it right. Using common sense technical grading, to me it’s a solid 67.

  • LeeBone
    LeeBone Posts: 4,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Original thread on this coin.
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/991122/gtg-fresh-back-from-our-host-right-now-now-with-full-explaination-pics/p1

  • BadaBling
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    @LeeBone said:
    Original thread on this coin.
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/991122/gtg-fresh-back-from-our-host-right-now-now-with-full-explaination-pics/p1

    Good grief…. That’s just laughable. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • stockdude_
    stockdude_ Posts: 555 ✭✭✭✭
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    So if I read this correctly this one coin has had multiple "grades" ranging from 64 to 68 over the years?

  • Extremeengineer
    Extremeengineer Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
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    @BadaBling said:

    ?? I have no idea what you’re trying to say here… 🤷🏻‍♂️

    Sorta my thought when you say the same coin has ranged from a 64 to a 68, seems like the graders were the ones who ‘had no idea what they were trying to do here.’

    But I guess congrats? Is there a yellow bean that has a -1 inside? Maybe the first use will be here? Just kidding, but can’t use any of this to foster my grading education. We throw this out as a statistical outlier in that respect🤣

  • johnny010
    johnny010 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @FlyingAl said:
    Reminds me of a post about an NGC MS68+ where nearly all comments were negative and claiming "NGC got it wrong".

    Funny how fast that changes when the plastic is different.

    I would have guessed 66 for what it's worth.

    Consistency makes a trust difference.

  • BadaBling
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    @Extremeengineer said:

    @BadaBling said:

    ?? I have no idea what you’re trying to say here… 🤷🏻‍♂️

    Sorta my thought when you say the same coin has ranged from a 64 to a 68, seems like the graders were the ones who ‘had no idea what they were trying to do here.’

    But I guess congrats? Is there a yellow bean that has a -1 inside? Maybe the first use will be here? Just kidding, but can’t use any of this to foster my grading education. We throw this out as a statistical outlier in that respect🤣

    My coin never graded anything less than an NGC 67+ CAC.

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