Buy the coin not the slab nor the green bean.

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hfjacinto
hfjacinto Posts: 918 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 15, 2023 9:09AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I went on Friday to my local coin shop, he just got a full set of Proof Mercury dimes in, and I needed to see them. In my price range, I had 2 that were close in price, one had a CAC and when I looked it also had a finger print. I took the lower grade one but it is in old green label PCGS.

Happy to add it to my collection. I actually got into the high 60's on the registry set, but today I cleaned up all my sets to add all my coins so I can get my ranking up, so my score on the registry set went down as I moved a few coins around.

My ranking did go from from 2565 to 2441 and all coins except 1 are on a registry set, so I'm happy.

My registry set (although I don't really play the game, but do use the set to store my coin information)

https://www.ngccoin.com/profile/455429/

The coin.


The moral of this post is too ALWAYS buy the coin, don't buy the grade or the green bean, buy the coin!

My current registry sets:
20th Century Type Set
Virtual DANSCO 7070
Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins

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  • coinbuf
    coinbuf Posts: 12,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    While I hate fingerprints and spots with a passion, the truth is that those things do not bother some collectors. So the higher graded coin with a fingerprint or with a green bean may be more desirable to them, what works for you may not for someone else and that is just fine.

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    My Collection of Old Holders

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  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,230 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very hard, if not impossible, to overlook a fingerprint. Your eyes are immediatley drawn right to it.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • goodmoney4badmoney
    goodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It has the added bonus of being Zack approved ;)

  • hfjacinto
    hfjacinto Posts: 918 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @goodmoney4badmoney

    Not Travis approved?
    😥

    My current registry sets:
    20th Century Type Set
    Virtual DANSCO 7070
    Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins

  • goodmoney4badmoney
    goodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @hfjacinto said:
    @goodmoney4badmoney

    Not Travis approved?
    😥

    For a "normal" coin it's nice looking. :D

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @hfjacinto said:
    @goodmoney4badmoney

    Not Travis approved?
    😥

    Who is this Travis? I like the Zack approved!

  • hfjacinto
    hfjacinto Posts: 918 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Zack and Travis approved is way better than a green bean!

    😜

    My current registry sets:
    20th Century Type Set
    Virtual DANSCO 7070
    Slabbed IHC set - Missing the Anacs Slabbed coins

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I personally can’t overlook a fingerprint. Even a partial print destroys it for me. If you see it, so will everyone else and then I can’t unsee it, even with a bean.

  • coinbuf
    coinbuf Posts: 12,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2023 11:32AM
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    @hfjacinto said:

    @coinbuf said:
    While I hate fingerprints and spots with a passion, the truth is that those things do not bother some collectors. So the higher graded coin with a fingerprint or with a green bean may be more desirable to them, what works for you may not for someone else and that is just fine.

    Seriously? Defending a fingerprint on a green bean?

    I like green beans as much as the average person on here, but they get it wrong also.

    I am defending nothing except personal choice, as you did not provide a photo of the coin you passed on there is no way for anyone to know if you actually saw a fingerprint, maybe you are more biased than you think you are. If you can only handle yes men type of replies you should say that in advance, would save you a headache or two.

    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

    Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
  • airplanenut
    airplanenut Posts: 22,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm curious how recently the coin with the fingerprint was graded. It's certainly possible that if graded somewhat recently, the coin was slabbed and stickered in close succession, and only after that did the print become noticeable.

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  • Che_Grapes
    Che_Grapes Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Beautiful coin (op)

  • DisneyFan
    DisneyFan Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Can a fingerprint be considered just another form of toning?

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  • stockdude_
    stockdude_ Posts: 555 ✭✭✭✭
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    Strike is most important to me. Cant unsee a weak strike. Its unfortunate that the grading services dont seem to value it that much

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I buy the coin, the holder, and the sticker :)

    Mike
    My Indians
    Dansco Set

  • Extremeengineer
    Extremeengineer Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
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    I do my best to buy the coin. However, as I am not a skilled grader, and do not know all of the nuances to look for, I do find the holders helpful. They’ve accelerated my learning curve as I feel they give me a basis for grading as i look the coins over. So I’ll admit I let the holders help me decide which coins to buy.

  • Cougar1978
    Cougar1978 Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2023 12:59PM
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    I buy PCGS coins using my grading skills / ANA grading course early on (plus in the biz since1990) pick out nice coins. Prefer material that’s PQ with strong strike and super luster.

    Investor
  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @hfjacinto said:

    @coinbuf said:
    While I hate fingerprints and spots with a passion, the truth is that those things do not bother some collectors. So the higher graded coin with a fingerprint or with a green bean may be more desirable to them, what works for you may not for someone else and that is just fine.

    Seriously? Defending a fingerprint on a green bean?

    I like green beans as much as the average person on here, but they get it wrong also.

    Hard to know without seeing the coin. I personally mind some fingerprints and not others.

    But you may well be incorrect in suggesting CAC got it wrong. A fingerprint does not disqualify it if the fingerprint was properly considered in the coin's grade. It's not like a fingerprint results in a details grade. A technical 67 with a print could well be a solid 66 or an exceptional 65.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2023 12:54PM
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    @DisneyFan said:
    Can a fingerprint be considered just another form of toning?

    Textile toning... >:)

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • DisneyFan
    DisneyFan Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @stockdude_ said:
    Strike is most important to me. Cant unsee a weak strike. Its unfortunate that the grading services dont seem to value it that much

    That's where you come out ahead!

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