PCGS Rattler. Is it possible?

coirn · June 23, 2011 4:32AM

Is it possible to determine when a coin was slabbed if it is housed in a PCGS Rattler? I know PCGS graded their coins with this slab in 1986; 1987; 1988, and for a few months at least, in 1989. Can one determine based on the serial number what year a Rattler was graded?

I see many, "213..." serial numbers and "707..." numbered Rattlers and it would seem the 213s where graded in 1986 exclusively and the 707s in a later year.
This is weak evidence at best though as the number of slabs I've looked at is too small.

llafoe · June 23, 2011 4:34AM

Is it possible... probably, but I'd hate to be the PCGS employee that had to slab a poisonous snake!

LindeDad · June 23, 2011 4:45AM

PCGS has always been pretty random on the numbers used. Some seemed to be for shows and others for bulk orders but to say what year a number come from back then one would have had to of been the submitter to know for sure. Or have the original submitters give you the info of when it was graded.
PCGS has never made the date something was graded public knowledge except for a very few coins when hitting certain milestones.

19Lyds · June 23, 2011 4:46AM

No. It's not that easy since serial numbers were given out in blocks.

Some bulk submissions may have been in the 7000000 series numbers.

I am at this moment looking at a 1885 Morgan with a serial number of 1283278 thats in a Gen 2 slab which defies your logic regarding the 2130000 serial numbers.

Granted, the Gen 2 slab is identical to the Gen 1 with the exception of the wrap around but why would a 128 number get the Gen 2 while a 213 not?

TomB · June 23, 2011 5:12AM

These numbers are not sequential. I own OGH slabbed coins from the 1994-1998 era that have lower numbers than rattler slabbed coins that I own.

illini420 · June 23, 2011 5:39AM

If you had a 1989 dated coin in a rattler, you'd know it was slabbed in 1989

questor54 · June 23, 2011 7:27AM

I will pay HUGE premiums for any Presidential dollar in a PCGS first generation "rattler" holder.

Russ · June 23, 2011 8:28AM

Tom is right. The number sequences are meaningless. And the certs that start with a 7 are bulk submissions, so can be any year.

Russ, NCNE

PerryHall · June 23, 2011 9:11AM

Lets say that you could hypothetically hack into the PCGS data base and figure out when your rattlers were slabbed. Of what real use would this information be to you?

golfer72 · June 23, 2011 10:01AM

<< <i>I will pay HUGE premiums for any Presidential dollar in a PCGS first generation "rattler" holder. >>

LOL! Good one.

coirn · June 23, 2011 12:54PM

<< <i>Lets say that you could hypothetically hack into the PCGS data base and figure out when your rattlers were slabbed. Of what real use would this information be to you? >>

First off, it wouldn't be hacking into the system if there was a viable way of obtaining the info honestly, and second, I am an information snob.

coindeuce · June 23, 2011 1:12PM

<< <i>I will pay HUGE premiums for any Presidential dollar in a PCGS first generation "rattler" holder. >>

Since an Ike Dollar qualifies as a Presidential, I think your wallet is in for a workout.

NPO · October 2, 2023 11:54AM

@coirn said:
<< Lets say that you could hypothetically hack into the PCGS data base and figure out when your rattlers were slabbed. Of what real use would this information be to you? >>

First off, it wouldn't be hacking into the system if there was a viable way of obtaining the info honestly, and second, I am an information snob.

This would be great information!!

MarkKelley · October 2, 2023 12:14PM

Old thread alert!

World67 · October 2, 2023 12:22PM

BStrauss3 · October 2, 2023 1:10PM

@19Lyds said:
Granted, the Gen 2 slab is identical to the Gen 1 with the exception of the wrap around but why would a 128 number get the Gen 2 while a 213 not?

It's not. It's a Gen 2 with the band broken off. It was just a simple piece of plastic slid on (granted it takes some skill, but). It's not until the next generation that it's actually an integral piece of the shell.

PCGS Rattler. Is it possible?

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