CAC population report

chesterb · September 30, 2023 9:30PM

Do the CAC pop reports include CACG graded coins? I noticed that CACG designates coins as cleaned, questionable toning, scratched, etc. Will the coins with those grade designations be included in the CAC pop reports?

Thanks in advance

braddick · September 30, 2023 10:05PM

Just in case there isn't an answer provided here.
https://forum.cacgrading.com/discussions

PeakRarities · September 30, 2023 10:22PM

On the pop report page there’s a drop down box to filter by stickered or graded, however the default should show both. I believe all the details coins go in the “0” column.

BStrauss3 · October 1, 2023 5:45AM

CAC and CACG are separate operations. It's been clearly stated that they are not equivalent... i.e. a PCGS+CAC MSwhatever is not a CACG MSwhatever.

It's unlikely that the population report from one will include the population from the other.

MetroD · October 1, 2023 6:44AM

@BStrauss3 said:
CAC and CACG are separate operations. It's been clearly stated that they are not equivalent... i.e. a PCGS+CAC MSwhatever is not a CACG MSwhatever.

It's unlikely that the population report from one will include the population from the other.

It appears to be a 'combined/filterable' data set, organized by grade.

Example
"Pop/Pricing" Selection = "Pop Only"
"Stickered : Graded" Selection = "Stickered : Graded"

IF I interpret the data correctly, @DeplorableDan is correct. In a given cell, the "stickered" population precedes the colon, while the "graded" population follows the colon.

Consider the "1903 Jefferson" row. The "66" column indicates:

I take this to mean 185 "stickered", and 4 "graded".

Edited for clarity.

PeakRarities · October 1, 2023 7:23AM

@BStrauss3 said:
CAC and CACG are separate operations. It's been clearly stated that they are not equivalent... i.e. a PCGS+CAC MSwhatever is not a CACG MSwhatever.

It's unlikely that the population report from one will include the population from the other.

Can you point me to where that was stated? I do recall a distinction that they were separate entities, but no where have I ever read that they they are using different standards and are “not equivalent”.

scubafuel · October 1, 2023 8:06AM

They absolutely want to be treated as equivalent.

Catbert · October 1, 2023 8:34AM

@BStrauss3 said:
CAC and CACG are separate operations. It's been clearly stated that they are not equivalent... i.e. a PCGS+CAC MSwhatever is not a CACG MSwhatever.

It's unlikely that the population report from one will include the population from the other.

I find this assertion to be unsubstantiated. Yes, they are separate entities, but their pop reports are tracked in one database. Go to the CAC pop report website for proof. By implication, they are using the same standard. Additionally, JA has said that he intends to rotate their grading sets between the two operations so that the graders/certifiers are keeping up to standards.

DisneyFan · October 1, 2023 8:40AM

@MetroD said:

Consider the "1903 Jefferson" row. The "66" column indicates:

I take this to mean 185 "stickered", and 4 "graded".

And under 66+ in the next column - none so far have been graded.

chesterb · October 1, 2023 9:46AM

thank you deplorabledan and others. I now get it and appreciate your responses.

robec · October 1, 2023 10:37AM

The drop down menu gives you 3 choices, Both together, Sickered only or Graded only.

alaura22 · October 1, 2023 2:12PM

Still a bit confused:
What does
Stickered: graded mean?
What does
Graded only mean?
and
What does Stickered Only mean?

robec · October 1, 2023 2:28PM

@alaura22 said:
Still a bit confused:
What does
Stickered: graded mean?
What does
Graded only mean?
and
What does Stickered Only mean?

Stickered:Graded shows the population number for both those with CAC stickers and those graded by CAC. The number of each is separated by a :

Graded only shows the coins graded by CACG.

Stickered only shows the coins stickered by CAC.

alaura22 · October 1, 2023 2:33PM

@robec said:

@alaura22 said:
Still a bit confused:
What does
Stickered: graded mean?
What does
Graded only mean?
and
What does Stickered Only mean?

Stickered:Graded shows the population number for both those with CAC stickers and those graded by CAC. The number of each is separated by a :

Graded only shows the coins graded by CACG.

Stickered only shows the coins stickered by CAC.

Ok
So, if I'm just looking for coins with a CAC sticker for PCGS & NGC I would use the Stickered Only tab?

robec · October 1, 2023 2:35PM

@alaura22 said:

@robec said:

@alaura22 said:
Still a bit confused:
What does
Stickered: graded mean?
What does
Graded only mean?
and
What does Stickered Only mean?

Stickered:Graded shows the population number for both those with CAC stickers and those graded by CAC. The number of each is separated by a :

Graded only shows the coins graded by CACG.

Stickered only shows the coins stickered by CAC.

Ok
So, if I'm just looking for coins with a CAC sticker for PCGS & NGC I would use the Stickered Only tab?

Yes

alaura22 · October 1, 2023 2:41PM

Thanks Bob

alaura22 · October 1, 2023 2:42PM

To bad there is no way to see how many were stcikered from PCGS vs NGC.
That wold be very helpful...........

winesteven · October 1, 2023 8:14PM

@alaura22 said:
To bad there is no way to see how many were stcikered from PCGS vs NGC.
That wold be very helpful...........

Yes, helpful. But while CAC internal records quite possibly keep track of this, CAC has never made this data public.

Steve

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