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chesterb
chesterb Posts: 995 ✭✭✭✭✭

Do the CAC pop reports include CACG graded coins? I noticed that CACG designates coins as cleaned, questionable toning, scratched, etc. Will the coins with those grade designations be included in the CAC pop reports?

Thanks in advance

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  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just in case there isn't an answer provided here.
    https://forum.cacgrading.com/discussions

  • PeakRarities
    PeakRarities Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    On the pop report page there’s a drop down box to filter by stickered or graded, however the default should show both. I believe all the details coins go in the “0” column.

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  • BStrauss3
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    CAC and CACG are separate operations. It's been clearly stated that they are not equivalent... i.e. a PCGS+CAC MSwhatever is not a CACG MSwhatever.

    It's unlikely that the population report from one will include the population from the other.

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  • PeakRarities
    PeakRarities Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BStrauss3 said:
    CAC and CACG are separate operations. It's been clearly stated that they are not equivalent... i.e. a PCGS+CAC MSwhatever is not a CACG MSwhatever.

    It's unlikely that the population report from one will include the population from the other.

    Can you point me to where that was stated? I do recall a distinction that they were separate entities, but no where have I ever read that they they are using different standards and are “not equivalent”.

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  • scubafuel
    scubafuel Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They absolutely want to be treated as equivalent.

  • Catbert
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    @BStrauss3 said:
    CAC and CACG are separate operations. It's been clearly stated that they are not equivalent... i.e. a PCGS+CAC MSwhatever is not a CACG MSwhatever.

    It's unlikely that the population report from one will include the population from the other.

    I find this assertion to be unsubstantiated. Yes, they are separate entities, but their pop reports are tracked in one database. Go to the CAC pop report website for proof. By implication, they are using the same standard. Additionally, JA has said that he intends to rotate their grading sets between the two operations so that the graders/certifiers are keeping up to standards.

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  • DisneyFan
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    @MetroD said:

    Consider the "1903 Jefferson" row. The "66" column indicates:

    I take this to mean 185 "stickered", and 4 "graded".

    And under 66+ in the next column - none so far have been graded.

  • chesterb
    chesterb Posts: 995 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    thank you deplorabledan and others. I now get it and appreciate your responses.

  • robec
    robec Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The drop down menu gives you 3 choices, Both together, Sickered only or Graded only.

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Still a bit confused:
    What does
    Stickered: graded mean?
    What does
    Graded only mean?
    and
    What does Stickered Only mean?

  • robec
    robec Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @alaura22 said:
    Still a bit confused:
    What does
    Stickered: graded mean?
    What does
    Graded only mean?
    and
    What does Stickered Only mean?

    Stickered:Graded shows the population number for both those with CAC stickers and those graded by CAC. The number of each is separated by a :

    Graded only shows the coins graded by CACG.

    Stickered only shows the coins stickered by CAC.

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @robec said:

    @alaura22 said:
    Still a bit confused:
    What does
    Stickered: graded mean?
    What does
    Graded only mean?
    and
    What does Stickered Only mean?

    Stickered:Graded shows the population number for both those with CAC stickers and those graded by CAC. The number of each is separated by a :

    Graded only shows the coins graded by CACG.

    Stickered only shows the coins stickered by CAC.

    Ok
    So, if I'm just looking for coins with a CAC sticker for PCGS & NGC I would use the Stickered Only tab?

  • robec
    robec Posts: 7,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @alaura22 said:

    @robec said:

    @alaura22 said:
    Still a bit confused:
    What does
    Stickered: graded mean?
    What does
    Graded only mean?
    and
    What does Stickered Only mean?

    Stickered:Graded shows the population number for both those with CAC stickers and those graded by CAC. The number of each is separated by a :

    Graded only shows the coins graded by CACG.

    Stickered only shows the coins stickered by CAC.

    Ok
    So, if I'm just looking for coins with a CAC sticker for PCGS & NGC I would use the Stickered Only tab?

    Yes

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thanks Bob

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    To bad there is no way to see how many were stcikered from PCGS vs NGC.
    That wold be very helpful...........

  • winesteven
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    @alaura22 said:
    To bad there is no way to see how many were stcikered from PCGS vs NGC.
    That wold be very helpful...........

    Yes, helpful. But while CAC internal records quite possibly keep track of this, CAC has never made this data public.

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