1894 S BM proof barber dime

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Nfoster76
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edited August 17, 2023 6:52AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I found this in an antique shop in Bourbon Missouri. There was only one type of die used, so even though it’s AG3 condition. The die crack in the D in United and The 1st S in States is there. The mint mark is not visible but looks like it is there.




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  • World67
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  • 291fifth
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    Send it in for authentication.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    what is the link for?

    "Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
    -Albert Einstein-

    Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.

  • Relaxn
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    What? Why leap to such a weird place? Rather than you have a intensely circulated barber dime
    ..

  • MFeld
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    @Relaxn said:
    What? Why leap to such a weird place? Rather than you have a intensely circulated barber dime
    ..

    Many people imagine the best/most lucrative possibility, even if it's not really possible.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • telephoto1
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    BM seems appropriate here.


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • cmerlo1
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    Even if it were a genuine 1894-S dime, I think it's too far gone for any third-party grading service to confidently determine its authenticity and put their money behind a guarantee that it is.

    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • MarkKelley
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    Martin Luther King Jr. also had a dream...

  • Nfoster76
    Nfoster76 Posts: 18 ✭
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    To all: If you know anything about this coin. There are 2 heavily worn graded examples of this coin. It is still attributable because of the die cracks. There was only one set of dies that struck these. Out of 24, 11 are known to exist. The 1894 P Barber dime does not have the same attribution markers for the BM proof.

  • privatecoin
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    Send it in.

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  • 291fifth
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    Since you already know more than the other folks on this forum I'm surprised that is not already in the mail to PCGS for authentication.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • telephoto1
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    @Nfoster76 said:
    To all: If you know anything about this coin. There are 2 heavily worn graded examples of this coin. It is still attributable because of the die cracks. There was only one set of dies that struck these. Out of 24, 11 are known to exist. The 1894 P Barber dime does not have the same attribution markers for the BM proof.

    I think you should take the advice of several others here and submit it to a TPG rather than trying to convince people on a coin forum who haven't seen it in hand and can't make a determination based on poorly focused pics.


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • World67
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  • IkesT
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    @Nfoster76 said:
    To all: If you know anything about this coin. There are 2 heavily worn graded examples of this coin. It is still attributable because of the die cracks. There was only one set of dies that struck these. Out of 24, 11 are known to exist. The 1894 P Barber dime does not have the same attribution markers for the BM proof.

    If you know they were struck from only 1 die pair, then you should also know that the date position on the obverse would have to match, which yours does not.

    The reverse would also have to have an "S" mint mark, by the way. ;)

  • World67
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    @IkesT said:
    The reverse would also have to have an "S" mint mark, by the way. ;)

    Someone tried to find it with nic-a-date.

  • telephoto1
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    @IkesT said:

    @Nfoster76 said:
    To all: If you know anything about this coin. There are 2 heavily worn graded examples of this coin. It is still attributable because of the die cracks. There was only one set of dies that struck these. Out of 24, 11 are known to exist. The 1894 P Barber dime does not have the same attribution markers for the BM proof.

    If you know they were struck from only 1 die pair, then you should also know that the date position on the obverse would have to match, which yours does not.

    The reverse would also have to have an "S" mint mark, by the way. ;)

    How dare you inject facts and common sense into the conversation, man...this is the internet!


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • Coinosaurus
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    @291fifth said:
    Since you already know more than the other folks on this forum I'm surprised that is not already in the mail to PCGS for authentication.

    And even if everyone on this forum agreed it was a 94-S, that would still carry zero weight with the TPGs.

    If I owned this coin I would say nothing until it was in a holder. You'd get a much bigget publicity splash if you could come right out of the gate with one of the services endorsing the coin. Plus you could coordinate with the numismatic print media, and possibly pull in maintsteam media coverage as well.

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  • jmlanzaf
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    @291fifth said:
    Send it in for authentication.

    I'll pay for the submission if it comes back 1894-S

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @Manifest_Destiny said:

    @IkesT said:
    The reverse would also have to have an "S" mint mark, by the way. ;)

    Someone tried to find it with nic-a-date.

    The 1894-S no S variety is far more rare than the 1894-S dime

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • bsshog40
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    Another post that's beginning to make me think this is Friday and all the mods have gone home.

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  • MrEureka
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    @Nfoster76 said:
    I found this in an antique shop in Bourbon Missouri. There was only one type of die used, so even though it’s AG3 condition. The die crack in the D in United and The 1st S in States is there. The mint mark is not visible but looks like it is there.




    ![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/u

    To make a better case, it would help to show us pics of the die cracks on a high grade 94-S.

    Andy Lustig

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  • telephoto1
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    I'm just curious so I bumped this thread to see if the BM had passed through the system yet...


    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • World67
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  • FrankH
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    Hang on, people!
    Could that smudge on the reverse be some of Hallie Dagget's ice cream?

    If we knew the flavor, it's possible it could be identified conclusively. >:)

  • JohnF
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    FWIW, there are two confirmed super-low grade examples of the 94-S dime out there that haven't been seen for decades!

    John Feigenbaum
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  • RobertScotLover
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    @telephoto1 said:
    I'm just curious so I bumped this thread to see if the BM had passed through the system yet...

    Me thinks you have your answer

  • may
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    OP was last online on August 31st, so I seriously doubt we will ever see him again.

  • braddick
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    Slickcoins 2.0

  • RobertScotLover
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    Sorry to say but Its threads like these that turn me off.

  • BadaBling
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    No.

  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,309 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2023 5:41PM
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    If my genuine 1894-S dime: For sale,$800k. Delivery, in-person, by me. Piece would have been certified authentic by ANACS, NGC, PCGS, at least two of the three TPGs by the time I offer for sale.

    "Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
    -Albert Einstein-

    Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.

  • sellitstore
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    edited October 29, 2023 6:00AM
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    @Nfoster76 said:
    To all: If you know anything about this coin. There are 2 heavily worn graded examples of this coin. It is still attributable because of the die cracks. There was only one set of dies that struck these. Out of 24, 11 are known to exist. The 1894 P Barber dime does not have the same attribution markers for the BM proof.

    Yes, but your coin does not match these cracks. Yours shows a crack extending from the bottom of the "S" but a genuine 94S has what looks more like a die scratch extending from the top curve of the "S". They are in different positions. Look at photos of a genuine 94S. Here's a link to one provided by our host.
    https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1894-s-10c-bm/4805

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