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The 1955 Lincoln Cent and me.

emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

A good place to start
In 1952, ...the Mint considered replacing the Lincoln cent with a new design by Mint Chief Engraver Gilroy Roberts, Several thousand 1955 pieces were struck with a doubled die, and display doubling of the date. The Mint was aware of the pieces, and knew ................................they were somewhere within a large production lot, but opted to release them rather than destroy the entire lot. ...................... The variety did not become widely known until several years later.
The redesign came as a complete surprise, as word of the proposal had not been leaked. The coin was officially released on February 12, 1959, the 150th anniversary of Lincoln's birth, .....................................
Although, some pieces entered circulation early.
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More to come as I progress.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since I have now read this on the internet I know it must be true!

    All glory is fleeting.
  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth 😂 👍🏻

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,912 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Since I have now read this on the internet I know it must be true!

  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dazzling.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if you cant dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with doo do

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interest and collectability will never exceed the doubled die cent of that year. Cheers, RickO

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Who has an X-ray machine in their possesion? Bad enough they have high powered microscopes.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • maymay Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He sandwiched two stories together! :lol: 🤣

    Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2023 3:51AM

    @Manifest_Destiny said:

    @291fifth said:
    Since I have now read this on the internet I know it must be true!

    Ain't that the truth, sweetie.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Same coin, same side, same ole, same... ole, my.
    I can't show if the D is doubled, but those O's are pushing up and out.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,609 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Actually, I like to believe it was a marketing ploy by the cigarette manufacturer of Lucky Strike in collaboration, behind the scene. After all, the story goes: they were found inside the cellophane wrap of the cigarette packs, initially…and later, found circulated. Vending machines in those days took nickels , dimes , and quarters. Cigarettes went from $.20 a pack, to $.23 per pack ( my late father told this to me in the early sixties). See, there was no way to get your two cents change out of those machines. just round ‘‘em up to a quarter. But back then , every penny (cent) counted.
    Lucky Strike found a way to give change through them old machines.
    i’m thinking somebody had some influences few realized, until later.

    Unrelated but akin in a twisted way,
    General Mills had a promo at the turn of the century involving a pattern coin ( variety, if you prefer)
    Who knows what goes on behind closed doors ?
    I found this type of weirdness in coinage over the years, within this hobby.
    The oddities are probably what attracted me most, to the hobby.

    To note a few odd attractions:
    1856 Flying Eagle created before the law authorized its creation.
    1913 Liberty nickel not even on the books but owned by the son of the Witch of Wall Street.
    1955 Doubled die cent in cigarette packages
    2000-P Sacagawea dollars created in 1999 with boldly detailed feathers and packed in cereal boxes ( Cheerios $) fewer than 500 known. Book says 5500.
    2004-D Wisconsin Statehood quarters ( high and low leaf specimens).
    Godless dollars….mules….
    whether snuck out or in, there’ll always be mysteries.
    And I’ve concluded the majority are done deliberately.

    However, I’m confused with your findings and time frames.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Funny thing is this coin was found in a roll at my dinner table.
    I'm just making sure I'm not talking out my butt so to say.
    Many photo's were produced and many more are to follow. Also using three PC's to show all angles and their images.
    This coin is very interesting, or better yet, very challenging as all points are still a go in my theory.
    It's like waiting for that snow lepeard, to show it's self to the camera.
    I'm picky when it comes to, how it reads and it's graphic history.
    I'll let you know when and if I think I'm wrong. I'm easy that way.
    All photo's are from this coin and no help from me other than filtering.
    To be contuined

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2023 12:23PM


    Anyway, I submitted this and it came back non-gradeable ( which I'm not sure is a real word) .
    And the lady who sold it to me was the granddaughter of the man who got his daughter( her mom) into collecting.

    Funny how the other keys in the album straight graded , but this was "smoothed". Weirdness, I tell you.

    The buyer had no problem paying $2000 for a problem :open_mouth:

    Yet, I'm still not understanding your chronology with 1952 and 1959

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The image below, struck on the obverse, is showing the letters O N E with a raised look and feel.
    If you look close, the letters show, a well spaced and level look, for the most part.
    Well spaced and level has my vote.
    The triangles point to the location of the letters.
    .

    .
    The photo below, is the same photo as above, xrayed.
    .

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is part one of a theory.
    Could this obverse side of a coin, shown below, be a 1955 Lincoln Cent, created by a U.S. mint ?
    .

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Me me
    I got a story that’s strangely not relevant and yet is on topic?
    Anyway. I bought a 1876 CC dime and the seller had issues mailing it out in a timely manner. When it arrived he included a free bu 1955s penny!! Doesn’t that seem like it fits this thread? Me thinkst so
    Thanks 🙏

    Oh ya. Ain’t real without pictures. Here you go ….


    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:
    The image below, struck on the obverse, is showing the letters O N E with a raised look and feel.
    If you look close, the letters show, a well spaced and level look, for the most part.
    Well spaced and level has my vote.
    The triangles point to the location of the letters.
    .

    >

    .
    The photo below, is the same photo as above, xrayed.
    .

    Pateidolia. Thise "letters" are too small to be actual coin features. > @emeraldATV said:

    This is part one of a theory.
    Could this obverse side of a coin, shown below, be a 1955 Lincoln Cent, created by a U.S. mint ?
    .

    I don't think so. The fives should have identical curvature. On your coin, the first alleged five is more round than the trailing 5. Perhaps a 6?

    I assume the reverse is a memorial?

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like your gift hit the spot .
    Good things come to one who waits.
    Friday, my car received a hole in the side of it's front bumper.
    Dam, did that front door slam shut. No harm !

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25, 2023 7:10PM

    Yes , the theory of the number being a six, presenting a 1965 Lincoln cent coin, is on the table and will not be pushed aside.
    As for the the other issues addressed....
    I took a very fine sheet of paper .
    Placed the coin in a very comfortable ( inside is a washer type rubber lining to prevent movement ) round plastic holder with two parts, top and bottom to snap shut.
    I mounted one side with the groment inside , on a cheese board (a thin wood panel ) to prevent any movement during the etching process. (a pencil's movement on the flat side of the lead point). using the tapped down paper on top of the coin to produce a negative.
    I'm not ready to show the different shades of the etching's of the image's yet but soon.
    I hate type -ing
    .

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ElmerFusterpuck- Any questions? 😂 🤣

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:

    @ElmerFusterpuck said:
    Looking thru my cabinet of drugs to see which one(s) to take to understand this thread. Not sure if I have anything strong enough.

    Try mushrooms.

    That’s an interesting thought. Perhaps that’s where missing socks and coins wind up


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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The overlays are transparent.
    Re: The 1965 overlay, I had to add a part of the fourth didgit being the five.
    The reason why is the nine was not clear enough to use as the guide.
    This was so cool to attempt. I love that app and it hasen't been on sale for over 15 years. Don't ask.
    So, who beleves in the flat earth theory ?

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope.I’m a round earther. But for those who aren’t. Here’s a coin for them.


    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    JIB hooo! ,..O my.
    Looks like The Point of No Return. In pastel that would look great. just thinking out loud.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:
    JIB hooo! ,..O my.
    Looks like The Point of No Return. In pastel that would look great. just thinking out loud.

    I remember just kinda thinking out loud and wondering if there was such a coin. Bingo. The formites, you know, delivered. It would indeed look wonderful in color. Thanks buddy

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    🧐

    Mr_Spud

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks dude (Mr_Spud)
    I need that !
    Kinda takes the doom and gloom out of it.
    See what an imagination can do.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1965 Lincoln Cent

    1957 Lincoln Cent

    The coin in question

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mr_Spud said:
    🧐

    Thanks buddy
    I was thinking about your skills and hoped you would do your magic. That’s really nice. Thanks 🙏

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So ? This may explain the research better than the other posts. It's very simple.
    This photo as seen below is at 100 % opaque. (Non transparent)

    .
    Now the photo is appox. 60% transparent. The red star was placed as a reference of how much fade, or the see through factor was added. Note the rim and the # one are both present, with the star showing two shades of red.
    .

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is our template (bottom photo) for the layovers and were not tampered with,
    other than the change over to black and white.
    .

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The first photo is a 100% opaque image. Some of the red stars are sandwiched between the two photos, (template and layover) to show no adjustments of the images and how transparent the overlay is laying not to cover any anomaly's.
    Black lines were also placed on top of the overlay to show the overlay's shape.
    Note the rim and the # one fall exactly in place like a piece in a puzzle.
    100% opaque
    .

    .
    The view as a negative
    .

    .
    This coin is off the charts, with more to follow.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,425 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I still have no idea what this thread is about. :|:D

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a headache...............................

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    I have a headache...............................

    Pete

    I'm seeing stars...

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    I have a headache...............................

    Pete

    I'm seeing stars...

    But are you seeing 5's?

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 30, 2023 4:31AM

    Take five, Emi. i provide distraction with a question; and I ask with sincerity. Do you have an emerald green all terrain vehicle? I puzzle myself with this two years now when see your username. My username is what students call me, apocopating my surname. (I prefer it to the anatomical nouns they proffer from time to time, heh heh.)
    Edited five or six time to hamper clarity

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A - Aston
    T- Technical
    V- Vocational
    That's a funny quwinkeedink, teach.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    I still have no idea what this thread is about. :|:D

    That's okay, emerald has no idea what it's about either. :D

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Fraz said:
    Do you have an emerald green all terrain vehicle?

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's another quwinkeedink
    The photo below was used as an over lay on the coin and was made transparent for a better view of the strike.
    We went over this...But, breaking news...

    .
    Now check out the last five on the coin as seen below.
    .

    See it ?
    I'll be back.

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So.......
    If i may..............NO ! ............Nor do I care for one.
    Fake news with an assumption that I was not a party of.
    Go Eagles !
    I'll be back

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, I’m halfway there.

    @emeraldATV said:
    A - Aston
    T- Technical
    V- Vocational
    That's a funny quwinkeedink, teach.

    You got me, Teach was not a favorite.

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