Something about the reverse makes me think it's been cleaned. The toning is nice, but that paired with the cleaning might cause it to grade Q.C. if not outright "Improper Cleaning" by a TPG.
If it does manage to straight grade, I think it would go either AU58 or MS62.
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The seller seems to follow a familiar ebay pattern, shoot for the moon especially on raw coins and hope that buyers don't notice. Nowhere else could sellers survive with that business plan.
@logger7 said:
The seller seems to follow a familiar ebay pattern, shoot for the moon especially on raw coins and hope that buyers don't notice. Nowhere else could sellers survive with that business plan.
I disagree. Some seller (can) do the same on their own websites, just with smaller audiences.
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@logger7 said:
The seller seems to follow a familiar ebay pattern, shoot for the moon especially on raw coins and hope that buyers don't notice. Nowhere else could sellers survive with that business plan.
I disagree. Some seller (can) do the same on their own websites, just with smaller audiences.
Ebay gives a larger prospective audience (the world). Websites less, and if a dealer has a loyal following all it takes is a few substandard transactions to lose their customers. Of course there are open auction venues all over the place with less customer rights ("all sales final"). Certification is a protection for the customer and can be a lot of work, but necessary for the long term.
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My gut instinct says cleaned & retoned
Something about the reverse makes me think it's been cleaned. The toning is nice, but that paired with the cleaning might cause it to grade Q.C. if not outright "Improper Cleaning" by a TPG.
If it does manage to straight grade, I think it would go either AU58 or MS62.
That's a tough one..
I'm at AU58. I really don't like that reverse but it would make a good album coin at the right price.
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AU 55 (at best).
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55
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The seller seems to follow a familiar ebay pattern, shoot for the moon especially on raw coins and hope that buyers don't notice. Nowhere else could sellers survive with that business plan.
I disagree. Some seller (can) do the same on their own websites, just with smaller audiences.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
55
Ebay gives a larger prospective audience (the world). Websites less, and if a dealer has a loyal following all it takes is a few substandard transactions to lose their customers. Of course there are open auction venues all over the place with less customer rights ("all sales final"). Certification is a protection for the customer and can be a lot of work, but necessary for the long term.
It's got a better than average obverse for that date and mint. The reverse is typical.
It's got about AU-55 worth of wear.
Pete
looks cleaned to me
Yes, the surfaces and color don't look natural but I can see how this coin could fool even a moderately experienced collector and certainly a new one.
Looks like an AU55 to me.... Cheers, RickO
Does the obverse have counting wheel markings? 55 if not.
Jim
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What @MFeld said. I was thinking exactly what he said before I scrolled down. 55 at best.
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MS62 (but impossible to have much confidence in that assessment given the image quality).