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alefzero
alefzero Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

This highjacker would be extremely easy to stop as they always include the image to steer victims off of the site. Not a difficult red flag to set off alarms.

https://www.ebay.com/str/onestopbuy2014

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  • P0CKETCHANGE
    P0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I reported a few dozen of their listings before you posted this. I agree, it’d be easy for eBay to implement a simple way to automatically flag this scammer.

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • BStrauss3
    BStrauss3 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Every time we find one of these listings we should ask for specific photos "the coin with a single light at K 10 so I can see the reflections off the eagle's beak"

    -----Burton
    ANA 50+ year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
    Author: 3rd Edition of the SampleSlabs book, https://sampleslabs.info/
  • P0CKETCHANGE
    P0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BStrauss3 said:
    Every time we find one of these listings we should ask for specific photos "the coin with a single light at K 10 so I can see the reflections off the eagle's beak"

    “WE DO NOT RESPOND THROUGH EBAY MESSAGES!!!”

    Nothing is as expensive as free money.

  • wev
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    It is not just coins. He/They regularly post half a dozen pieces of high-end (by their estimation) American silver hollow ware, always under a hijacked account. I contact the real owner and ebay each time and they poof in a day.

  • alefzero
    alefzero Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The idiot posts all of the stolen photos. Many of you probably know the seller, MBarr. He always basically puts a business card image in his lots. Well, this individual or team steals his a lot and includes that image. Also there are original sellers' internal inventory numbers that are simply duplicated in the lot titles. First time I saw him doing this, he actually was "selling" a certified coin that I owned at the same time. Usually, if not always, they are listed on the weekend, when anyone halfway competent at eBay has off, due to seniority. So he probably gets a few victims every time. It is lucrative enough to keep on doing it.

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @P0CKETCHANGE said:

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Every time we find one of these listings we should ask for specific photos "the coin with a single light at K 10 so I can see the reflections off the eagle's beak"

    “WE DO NOT RESPOND THROUGH EBAY MESSAGES!!!”

    Use their posted email address.

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  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I really don't know that ebay wants to build code to search for a specific person, do they?

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  • semikeycollector
    semikeycollector Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 9, 2023 6:48AM
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    It seems that if Ebay looks for different variations of the text below, no matter what the email address is, they can flag the issue. (They may also look for the "no bidding" phrase or a variation)

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,049 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 9, 2023 7:15AM
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    Link takes me to a page that says "we are sold out".

    Perhaps the store is now gone?
    bob :(

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Searching for scammers on ebay is like playing Whack-a-Mole without a club. They reappear, often within hours, under a different name - same scams. Cheers, RickO

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ebay reads all messages so if you contact a spam seller chances are ebay may delete them that way if you make a pointed comment.

  • alefzero
    alefzero Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @logger7 said:
    Ebay reads all messages so if you contact a spam seller chances are ebay may delete them that way if you make a pointed comment.

    This seller is not a spam seller. It is a scam. They do not use eBay messaging but instruct their victims to contact through their external email, which eBay cannot read.

  • alefzero
    alefzero Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jmlanzaf said:
    I really don't know that ebay wants to build code to search for a specific person, do they?

    It is a piece of cake to simply catch and flag that single graphic they use every weekend in these assault in the eBay image uploader.

    Problem is that, since the mid-1990s, the growth of the internet has opened up an enormous number of programming (now called developing) opportunities. The field is flooded with individuals with little talent and requisite logic to perform efficiently, unlike before. There are always the right ones out there. But ignorant managers are not good at differentiating them.

  • MedalCollector
    MedalCollector Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @alefzero said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I really don't know that ebay wants to build code to search for a specific person, do they?

    It is a piece of cake to simply catch and flag that single graphic they use every weekend in these assault in the eBay image uploader.

    Problem is that, since the mid-1990s, the growth of the internet has opened up an enormous number of programming (now called developing) opportunities. The field is flooded with individuals with little talent and requisite logic to perform efficiently, unlike before. There are always the right ones out there. But ignorant managers are not good at differentiating them.

    Large organizations can sometimes be very siloed organizations and the developers may not even be aware of the issue.

    Large organizations are heavily automated and some issues aren’t identified until reports are run and reviewed by a human.

    Management may not view it as a priority or may not want to modify code for every individual scammer.

    There are lots of reasons why this “simple catch and flag” isn’t being implemented. I don’t believe it’s fair to blame a new generation of developers without an understanding of the specific internal operations.

  • jt88
    jt88 Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    should eBay remove those seller's accounts? Those accounts usually have high feedback.

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @alefzero said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I really don't know that ebay wants to build code to search for a specific person, do they?

    It is a piece of cake to simply catch and flag that single graphic they use every weekend in these assault in the eBay image uploader.

    Problem is that, since the mid-1990s, the growth of the internet has opened up an enormous number of programming (now called developing) opportunities. The field is flooded with individuals with little talent and requisite logic to perform efficiently, unlike before. There are always the right ones out there. But ignorant managers are not good at differentiating them.

    But there could be hundreds of similar things going on. Just because this is the one you're aware of doesn't mean it is of singular importance on the ebay end. They will end up searching for 500 specific people who can then simply evade the search by tweaking their message. I would assume they want/ need a way to catch generic problems not specific individuals.

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  • BStrauss3
    BStrauss3 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jt88 said:
    should eBay remove those seller's accounts? Those accounts usually have high feedback.

    Usually, they're hijacked and for the days, weeks, or month they last, it's rip-off central. Then on to the next account.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50+ year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
    Author: 3rd Edition of the SampleSlabs book, https://sampleslabs.info/
  • MS66
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    @wev said:
    It is not just coins. He/They regularly post half a dozen pieces of high-end (by their estimation) American silver hollow ware, always under a hijacked account. I contact the real owner and ebay each time and they poof in a day.

    Same thing with high-end audio equipment BtW.

  • MonsterCoinz
    MonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jmlanzaf said:
    I really don't know that ebay wants to build code to search for a specific person, do they?

    Of course not. But it is simple for a company like eBay to implement an OCR tool (which pulls text from images and is very common now) to flag images that contain email addresses or certain keywords. This problem would essentially go away overnight.

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