New Indian Cent purchase. Guess what grade PCGS gave this little Indian

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jfriedm56
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Check out this new Indian cent I just added to my collection

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  • ajaan
    ajaan Posts: 18,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS64


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  • Shane6596
    Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS65

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  • NumisOxide
    NumisOxide Posts: 11,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS63

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  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

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  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Some good guesses. Reveal grade tomorrow so keep guessing

  • FlyingAl
    FlyingAl Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS64.

    Coin Photography

  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63 Red.
    Though I don’t know a lot about the color and designations on the copper nickel cents; I I do think the reverse appears as it does due to alloy mixing and not toning.

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  • coinnut
    coinnut Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My first thought was MS-62

  • jackpine20
    jackpine20 Posts: 156 ✭✭✭✭
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    MS63

    Matt Snebold

  • [Deleted User]
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    That there is a 65

  • Goober
    Goober Posts: 980 ✭✭✭
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    63 FTW! Maybe?

    Prost!

    Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.
  • rays
    rays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS62

  • Cocoinut
    Cocoinut Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS63

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  • TPRC
    TPRC Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    63

    Tom

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

    Mike
    My Indians
    Dansco Set

  • bagofnickels
    bagofnickels Posts: 354 ✭✭✭✭
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    MS64

  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MS63RD...beauty
    Jim


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  • zrnumismatics
    zrnumismatics Posts: 138 ✭✭✭
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    MS64

  • Grantu
    Grantu Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
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    MS64

  • spyglassdesign
    spyglassdesign Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65

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  • Clackamas1
    Clackamas1 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I find it hard to grade. The stippling in the fields throws me off. I could go 62+ to 64, maybe 65/66 if what I am seeing is an illusion. Great strike, I think that is 95%, certainly a coin to be proud to own.

  • 1Mike1
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    Imma guess 64 because of the spots.

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  • winesteven
    winesteven Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A better quality photo showing the mark in the field by the chin clearer could help. I’ll go with 64+.

    Steve

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  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Maybe this is better?

  • winesteven
    winesteven Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes. I’ll raise my initial 64+ guess to 65.

    @jesbroken above said MS63RD, but copper-nickel Indians don’t have color suffixes.

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • MWallace
    MWallace Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    64

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'd say gem and red. Nice coin; it's surprising somewhat that many civil war date coins like this are not that rare as the higher denominations are, $5 and above.

  • ironmanl63
    ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I will say 64. The obverse alone I would say 65.

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Better photo of reverse

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like an MS65 to me..... probably RD.... Pictures can be tricky... Cheers, RickO

  • Riley1955
    Riley1955 Posts: 136 ✭✭✭
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    Wow, the luster is awesome. I'll say 64.

  • winesteven
    winesteven Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @logger7 said:
    I'd say gem and red. Nice coin; it's surprising somewhat that many civil war date coins like this are not that rare as the higher denominations are, $5 and above.

    @ricko said:
    Looks like an MS65 to me..... probably RD.... Pictures can be tricky... Cheers, RickO

    Copper-Nickel Indians (and Flying Eagle cents) do not get color suffixes (for 1864, the first batch of Indian Cents were made of Copper-Nickel, the remaining ones for 1864 were made with the normal Copper alloy).

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @winesteven ... You are right, but I still call the nice IHC's red when I see them like that... Cheers, RickO

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,086 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    65

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll say MS65....

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  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 24, 2023 5:52AM
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    Those are far better photos and allows for a better guess for the grade. I actually knew regarding the color designation, just didn't consider it. My bad.
    Jim


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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jfriedm56 ... Thanks for the picture... And, I got it right.... :) Yippee - Happy dance... Cheers, RickO

  • winesteven
    winesteven Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ricko said:
    @jfriedm56 ... Thanks for the picture... And, I got it right.... :) Yippee - Happy dance... Cheers, RickO

    And how about me? Admittedly I'm weak at grading. I originally said 64+ due to my concern of the scratch in the obverse field near the chin, so I asked for a better photo. When he provided that, I then adjusted my guess to 65.

    As we all know, even a broken clock is correct twice every day, lol.

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • Shane6596
    Shane6596 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice IHC, very clean.

    Nice pickup.

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  • joeykoins
    joeykoins Posts: 18,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Awesome specimen of the Indian Cent! Great buy.
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  • 1Mike1
    1Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jfriedm56, PCGS has a pic of your coin. Not sure if you were aware.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • winesteven
    winesteven Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So, will you ship this coin to CAC and to Rick Snow to get their stickers? I'd say you have a real good shot at getting both!

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
  • OldIndianNutKase
    OldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I was going to grade it a MS64, but from your pictures it was hard to tell conclusively. Congrats on the 65 and you should send it to CAC and Rick Snow for validation. The TV suggests a better grade for an MS coin. I would havwe thought 66 based upon the TV photo. Color is perfect for a CuNi coin.

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  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @1Mike1 said:
    @jfriedm56, PCGS has a pic of your coin. Not sure if you were aware.

    I did verify it , but I don’t know how to post the TV on my post.

  • jfriedm56
    jfriedm56 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @winesteven said:
    So, will you ship this coin to CAC and to Rick Snow to get their stickers? I'd say you have a real good shot at getting both!

    Steve

    Thanks Steve. Was thinking about sending it to both.

  • winesteven
    winesteven Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jfriedm56 said:

    @winesteven said:
    So, will you ship this coin to CAC and to Rick Snow to get their stickers? I'd say you have a real good shot at getting both!

    Steve

    Thanks Steve. Was thinking about sending it to both.

    For a four figure coin like this, the fees to potentially get stickers, even including round-trip shipping twice, is reasonable (the shipping costs are diluted if you include other eye appealing “solid for the grade” coins in the submissions). Not only would one or both stickers add some value, but when the time comes to sell, whether by you or your heirs, those stickered coins will be a lot easier to sell at fair value.

    Steve

    A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!

    My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996

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