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Clio
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I've been looking for one of these for awhile now and managed to pick one up a few months ago out of the Noble Auction in Australia. Some of you might know it for having quite a significant group of British proof coinage. This example is a very common coin but the reason I bought it was because I thought it had a shot at making cameo.

I just got the grade results from PCGS and it did in-fact grade PR65CAM! Of 152 graded proof 1911 Shillings there are 7 with Cameo designations and none with Deep Cameo. NGC has given the attribute to 0 1911 shillings. Perhaps a stricter standard for it at NGC? Anyway I find cameo proofs to be very alluring and it always struck me as interesting that 1911s don't really come Cameo.

So what do y'all have?

What's your common coin with uncommon designations? SP, Cam, DCam, PL, etc.

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  • Clio
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    @neildrobertson said:
    1907-F 5 Mark in MS66PL. It's the only PL example of the type graded by PCGS.

    However, I'd contend that it isn't the only PL example graded by PCGS, just the only one designated PL. PCGS has nonetheless graded about 1300 examples of the type so far, with maybe 300-400 being in the post-PL era.

    That's really awesome. I do quite like PL examples of coins. I searched for a PL German 1 mark for quite awhile and never quite found one. The most fantastic PL to me still is the 1708 Shilling @Senator32 owns.

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  • BSmith
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    @Boosibri said:
    A PL early Pillar

    That must look amazing in hand.

  • Boosibri
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    @BSmith said:

    @Boosibri said:
    A PL early Pillar

    That must look amazing in hand.

    Here is a video:
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CapspO7lWla/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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    @Boosibri said:

    A PL early Pillar. Oops, not a common coin (5-10 exist) so guess I screwed this up, but not many PL Pillars.

    Assuming you sent this coin in for grading, did you have the expectation it was going to come back PL?

  • Boosibri
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    @Top50SetBuilder said:
    @Boosibri said:

    A PL early Pillar. Oops, not a common coin (5-10 exist) so guess I screwed this up, but not many PL Pillars.

    Assuming you sent this coin in for grading, did you have the expectation it was going to come back PL?

    I was indeed surprised at the PL. I sent it in as a 63 for regrade expecting a 63+.

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  • BSmith
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    @Boosibri said:

    @BSmith said:

    @Boosibri said:
    A PL early Pillar

    That must look amazing in hand.

    Here is a video:
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CapspO7lWla/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

    Thanks for the video, that's really amazing and a very appropriate song choice.

  • SimonW
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    That 1733 is nothing short of incredible Brian!

    I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.

  • 7Jaguars
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    MS65, and really exceptional

    MS66 and by far the best, though maybe not that common...

    Well, crazy common date but struck in copper..

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • robp2
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    @7Jaguars said:


    Well, crazy common date but struck in copper..

    That's right up my street. Even rarer with the penny flan described as a half penny. A course in a**e and elbow recognition required, methinks.

    The others are ok too :)

  • 7Jaguars
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    Yes, I laughed at that craziness. They call it "technical" error on label...

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    @7Jaguars said:
    Yes, I laughed at that craziness. They call it "technical" error on label...

    You mean they have a label called 'Technical Error'? Presumably all graded 70?

    It's just carelessness through indifference to detail. 9.1g would be the right weight for a copper halfpenny. The problem is that they predate this piece by over 100 years. Far better, and a greater display of professionalism if they had compared the weight with contemporary coinage and then assigned the description. Or read up about the change in weights over the centuries. But that takes up time...........

  • 7Jaguars
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    Yes, I'm thinking they looked up the weight in grams and then kicked it out. I don't particularly disagree with the date and the price was certainly right especially given what a recent example at Spink went for! LOL

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
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  • RSP
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    Just love that 1911 shilling, it is spectacular. Congrats

  • Clio
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    @GrandsLacs said:
    PCGS has graded 420 Cérès 1 francs as of right now, but only 17 have a plus grade, which works out to about 4%. This is the only 1895-A with a plus grade.

    That's a really outstanding coin. Lovely design. I wonder if there's many other users here that collect French coins. > @Boosibri said:

    A PL early Pillar. Oops, not a common coin (5-10 exist) so guess I screwed this up, but not many PL Pillars.

    That's okay! I suppose I could've gone without the "common" in the title and still got the input I was looking for. Really incredible coin you've got there. Curious how it shows in hand.

    @7Jaguars said:

    Well, crazy common date but struck in copper..

    That's pretty uncommon I'd say.... Really neat coin. I go back and forth on whether to bid on errors for my own collection.

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  • 7Jaguars
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    Interestingly it is one of my favorite late date halfcrowns, even more than proof 1960 and 1961 2/6s.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • Clio
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    @Boosibri said:

    @BSmith said:

    @Boosibri said:
    A PL early Pillar

    That must look amazing in hand.

    Here is a video:
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CapspO7lWla/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

    You know what I really respect from this is that they gave it that designation without you having to deep fry the thing first. I think just in the last couple years TPGs have been giving more cam designations to toned coins as well and rightly so. They shouldn't encourage people to process their coins to get those designations.

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  • Boosibri
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    @Clio said:

    @Boosibri said:

    @BSmith said:

    @Boosibri said:
    A PL early Pillar

    That must look amazing in hand.

    Here is a video:
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CapspO7lWla/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

    You know what I really respect from this is that they gave it that designation without you having to deep fry the thing first. I think just in the last couple years TPGs have been giving more cam designations to toned coins as well and rightly so. They shouldn't encourage people to process their coins to get those designations.

    To that point, I strongly dislike most PL designated coins as they are just dipped out flashy soulless coins.

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  • Clio
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    @Boosibri said:

    @Clio said:

    @Boosibri said:

    @BSmith said:

    @Boosibri said:
    A PL early Pillar

    That must look amazing in hand.

    Here is a video:
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CapspO7lWla/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

    You know what I really respect from this is that they gave it that designation without you having to deep fry the thing first. I think just in the last couple years TPGs have been giving more cam designations to toned coins as well and rightly so. They shouldn't encourage people to process their coins to get those designations.

    To that point, I strongly dislike most PL designated coins as they are just dipped out flashy soulless coins.

    I think this can depend on the era the coin was minted in. If it was last 100 years I think it's not uncommon to see them in their original state or close to it. And if they are stripped it isn't as apparent and the surfaces still look nice. The older, the most soulless as you say.

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  • Clio
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    @bosox said:
    Common date. Uncommon condition, PCGS MS-66+ Red.

    That thing is absolutely incredible! I love it.

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  • MasonG
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    Each side is common but not together on the same coin.

  • AngryDragon
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    something you don't see every day

  • Clio
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    @AngryDragon said:
    something you don't see every day

    I assume this is a mechanical error and not some weird rarity I haven't heard of? lol

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    @Clio said:

    @AngryDragon said:
    something you don't see every day

    I assume this is a mechanical error and not some weird rarity I haven't heard of? lol

    Yes a mechanical error of the most absurd sort

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