Possibly a large strike-through. If I had the coin in hand I'd want to look closely at the edges of the affected area. If any metal is displaced above the surface of the coin, that would speak to damage instead.
Hmmm. The areas around the defect appear to be completely normal, which argues against a post-mint impact. The detail inside the defect is pretty soft, arguing for an as-minted phenomenon.
Here's a strike-through photo I stole from a Google search that shows a similar appearance. I'm the furthest thing from an expert in mint errors though.
I'm the furthest thing from an expert in mint errors though.
Wanna bet?
LOL. Well, compared to some of the nonsense "error" parking-lot stuff that gets posted here I'm probably at Einstein-level..... but compared to the world-class error experts here, I'm a certified novice.
@1946Hamm said:
PMD A struck thru would not have the design in the bottom of the depression.
Actually I have seen countless strike throughs that are exactly the opposite of this, more often than not the design elements do show through if it is struck through cloth or some other malleable substance.
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@Che_Grapes said:
Could it have been an indentation that was on the planchette?
No, because if it was a void in the planchet, there would be no ghosting of the intended design elements in the bottom of the trough. And there would be weakness in the strike on the other side of the coin opposite the void (but that is not the case).
To me it appears to be struck-through a malleable object. This includes the possibility that the "object" was a piece of silver rolled into the planchet strip that fell out after the strike.
I have to go with the strike through camp also. PMD would show some ridges, or up turned metal from the damage; the metal has to go some place that was displaced. And, there would show bulging flattening effect on the other side. I see no real indications of that.
I am leaning towards a strike through... if this was PMD, would there not be greater evidence on the obverse given the force that would be required to create such an indentation as this?
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The obverse looks off to me.
I assume you are asking about the reverse though.
Possibly a large strike-through. If I had the coin in hand I'd want to look closely at the edges of the affected area. If any metal is displaced above the surface of the coin, that would speak to damage instead.
I think someone hit it with a hammer and another object. Screwdriver?
Looks like a struck through or perhaps a detached lamination.
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PMD A struck thru would not have the design in the bottom of the depression.
That makes sense.
If this happened there should be damage on the obverse from the hit, like on counterstamped coins.
Better pics now. Looks like it was squeezed or pressed.
It went up onto the denticle.
Damage on corresponding obverse rim too.
Hmmm. The areas around the defect appear to be completely normal, which argues against a post-mint impact. The detail inside the defect is pretty soft, arguing for an as-minted phenomenon.
Here's a strike-through photo I stole from a Google search that shows a similar appearance. I'm the furthest thing from an expert in mint errors though.
I'm the furthest thing from an expert in mint errors though.
Wanna bet?
Thinking planchet struck thru. Die struck over it and didn't take in the deep areas.
I don't see any way something that large could have been pressed into the reverse post-mint without serious damage to the obverse.
Looks to 100% a strike-thru made during striking.
LOL. Well, compared to some of the nonsense "error" parking-lot stuff that gets posted here I'm probably at Einstein-level..... but compared to the world-class error experts here, I'm a certified novice.
Actually I have seen countless strike throughs that are exactly the opposite of this, more often than not the design elements do show through if it is struck through cloth or some other malleable substance.
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Could it have been an indentation that was on the planchette?
No, because if it was a void in the planchet, there would be no ghosting of the intended design elements in the bottom of the trough. And there would be weakness in the strike on the other side of the coin opposite the void (but that is not the case).
To me it appears to be struck-through a malleable object. This includes the possibility that the "object" was a piece of silver rolled into the planchet strip that fell out after the strike.
I have to go with the strike through camp also. PMD would show some ridges, or up turned metal from the damage; the metal has to go some place that was displaced. And, there would show bulging flattening effect on the other side. I see no real indications of that.
IMO, an interesting find.
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I agree with the struck through theory, a fairly soft material as opposed to hard steel debris. Cheers, RickO
I also agree with the struck through theory. Looks legit. Cool find.
I am leaning towards a strike through... if this was PMD, would there not be greater evidence on the obverse given the force that would be required to create such an indentation as this?
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One other question... is the coin bent?
Based on the images, it does not look bent. However, if it was PMD, seems possible and even likely that the blunt force would have bent the coin
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Struck through. My gut said a nail at first glance, but I think more likely planchet scrap. Thoughts?
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