20 year search for the perfect S.S central American 20 for my collection
When your favorite dealer, John from Silicon Valley coins (goes by coin lieutenant on the pcgs boards), calls and tells me he has a special coin for my collection I always get excited.
I have been searching for an 1857-s 20 lib from the S.S Central America for years. Ever since I saw the ship of gold display at long Beach in 1999 or 2000. Back then I was a kid who could barely afford the parking at the convention, but ever since I have wanted one of these 20 libs.
I have looked at hundreds of these trying to find the right coin. These come really nice but often the ones that call out to me are in 65 and 66 holders and priced at multiples of a nice 63 or4. I had seen photos of nice 64s and knew if I searched hard enough and was patient I would find a 64 that had the right look. Finally the right one showed up in my mailbox tonight.
There is a reason john (Coinlieutenant) is the only person who, when he tells me he has a special coin for me , I get really excited.
Many of my best coins have come through his connections.
As for the coin I think you would be really hard pressed to find a nicer ms64. Anyone else have some S.S.central American relics to post.
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Congratulations, both on your patience and your splendid acquisition.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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Strong 64. Congrats.
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Wow, that looks really smooth and lustrous.
BIG Congrats!!
20 years is a LONG TIME!!
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
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Very nice. I picked this up 64+ CAC from Minshull Trading right as COVID hit. At some point I may try for a 65CAC from the first group. It is nice to have a dealer watching out for you. I am working to build a relationship like that. Trueviews are not great but it is all that I have.
Completed All CAC approved Classic Head $5 set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/344241
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/3455728 -
That’s a very nice 64
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I love the shipwreck story and am actively seeking the right one for myself as well! Congratulations on a beautiful coin!
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I admire your patience and it absolutely paid off. That is a stunning coin with beautiful surfaces, luster, and color. I have a hard time understanding the 64 grade. I’m sure it was not typical 64 money but probably still a great deal for the eye appeal.
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It's tough to find a nicer 64 because that's not a 64 as far as I can see from the pics.
Great coin, great acquisition.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
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Lovely coin and Congrats on a grand purchase! Someday perhaps i will find a SS Central America coin for my “Box of 20” …I am a bit of a history buff and heavily involved in the salvage business…i strongly recommend reading The Ship of Gold by Kinder…Historical novel that will truly endear the reader with the plight of the folks returning from the California Gold rush..
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A really nice and cool coin.
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Congratulations on a nice find. A beautiful piece of numismatic history.
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@fishteeth ... That is a real beauty.... Still plenty of luster. Obviously CAC puts it in the upper tier of grade. Cheers, RickO
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I have had one of those on my radar in the same grade! You coin is exceptional! Thanks for sharing!!!
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Nice big fish from the ocean
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A very pleasing coin. Congratulations!
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Super Cool/Awesome!
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That's a reaaaaly nice one!
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Your patience certainly paid off. Great pickup. Congrats. Quite a beautiful coin.
Jim
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A dream-come-true coin for sure. Congrats!
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I reread your last sentence to verify you wanted others to post coins from the shipwreck. Surprised there aren’t any others out there. I can’t be the only one with a coin to add.
Completed All CAC approved Classic Head $5 set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/344241
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/3455721 -
That looks like a gorgeous example, regardless of the grade! It's also always good to know some folks who will have your back, as well. Congratulations on the acquisition and the patience.
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Wonderful coin.
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@fishteeth Thank you for the kind words. I have genuinely loved helping you build your collection over time. We've been at this for 13 years now! Hard to believe.
This coin was a real creampuff. Gorgeous and glad you got it.
John
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Wow. Just WOW! Even without the famous shipwreck pedigree, that one stands out!
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
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What a great looking coin. PCAC64 is the ultimate value grade for this year. Smart buy.
John Marburger is my favorite coin dealer.
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@SethChandler said:
What a great looking coin. PCAC64 is the ultimate value grade for this year. Smart buy.John Marburger is my favorite coin dealer.
He charges a lot for shipping, though...
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John quickly corrected the mistake, though...
Perfect timing!
I'm starting to get ready to sell some coins and have been recording eBay purchase billing emails to an Excel spread sheet for the entire day. I came upon this bill from Coin Lieutenant from 15 years ago, puzzled over it for a moment, made the copy above, and then figured it most have been a mistake. Sure enough, two Ebay bills later, I found this corrected bill. Then, a few hours later, I read this thread and couldn't resist the troll. Sorry Coin Lieutenant.John and I bumped into each other in an eBay auction long ago and we've had very nice PM discussions about seated Liberty halves and the variety of very choice coins he owns and sells. It's funny to me that I see this thread hours after puzzling over the obviously erroneous bill.
Sorry for spoiling the celebration over this really nice double eagle recovered from the S.S. Central America. Congrats over the nice purchase!
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Wow! Nice coin
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I like it; you did well.
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@Barberian , that is funny.
What you didnt point out is that you ordered 1 day shipping with the gold and pearl inlay presentation box, along with a 10 year no questions asked warranty.
Seemed cheap.
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Beautiful coin. I'd be very happy with that purchase
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Great coin @fishteeth, here are my relics.
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@LJenkins11 Wow! What a neat set of coins! Both coins are gorgeous, including the 55-S which is hard to find in nice undamaged condition. Who knew one had to locate a 150-year-old shipwreck to find a nice one.
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Great looking coin congrats!!!
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Awesome pickup and a killer 64! It's hard to believe what role that shipwreck caused in the panic of 1857.
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John is a great person to deal with. Buying or selling, he is a top-notch dealer.
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I also bought a 1857-S SSCA $20 in PCGS MS-65 in the middle of the covid pandemic , in early 2021.
I bought it subject to it receiving CAC approval. JA loved the fabulous luster as much as I did and stickered it immediately even though I thought it had more serious bag marks on the neck and nose/mouth with equal amount on the cheek versus your lovely coin. I also searched 20 years for this high grade coin as well although I did previously buy a PCGS/CAC AU-58 one years ago for very cheap.
You did very well indeed. A virtual twin to my MS-65. Congrats! Your coin is borderline gold sticker candidate and should be premium priced. Mine was priced at a slight discount due to my thoughts of my coin.
coinlieutenant did great for you.
I was not impressed with the other original PCGS gold foil labeled MS-65 and hated the MS-66 and MS-67 ones out there so you could not do better.
My coin photo. It was purchased right here on this B/S/T board.
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I was fortunate enough to pick this one up some time ago.
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