A Sunday GTG on a $2.5 Lib, updated photos, and PCGS result
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Here's a new one into my collection/inventory. Shots are recent. Let's see if you can get the right grade! Multiple angles provided, but cell phone shots, so they aren't perfect, but they still show up on your screen about 5x larger than normal! 
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Hard to judge from the photos. Baggy AU or MS.
no way to GTG with those images, sorry............
I'll guess 55
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Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
I'm also at 55.
Young Numismatist
surfaces look odd, but could be the photos
Looks very marked up and a bit strange. How would we pick the "right" grade if coin is unslabbed/ungraded? Seems to have low MS detail.
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Consider them "pre-grading" photos. The coin has been graded by PCGS.
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The photos look like they were shot in whole different worlds
I'm anywhere from AU Polished to MS63 based on which picture I'm looking at.
Coin Photographer.
MS63
55
Tom
63
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Au details, repaired
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With images that are so different from one another, how about at least letting viewers know which, if any, are close to accurate?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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The back background accents the coin about right, in my opinion. The tangential light displays the digs/marks on the coin as well as the surfaces.
It is all the same coin with different light and background.
I understand that it’s the same coin, but it looks AU and possibly messed with in some pictures and straight grade unc. in others. Surely, some of the images are more true to like than the others, but you haven’t indicated which.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
AU55
I thought I indicated the black background looks the best (truest) to me? Perhaps I shouldn't have said "accents" and just should have said looks the closest to in hand.
Sorry, I didn’t take “The back background accents the coin about right” to mean that was necessarily the most accurate image.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Looks to me like an AU coin..... could be 55 or 58.... Cheers, RickO
So, there is the result. Several folks noted the surfaces might be weird. I would say they are hard to say for certain they are weird, but PCGS determined them to be so. A small area of weakness and possible pitting is around the eagle's head. To me, there are surface differences in the field around the bust and the stars, but the cause (to me, a non-counterfeit expert) is unknown. Perhaps these are difference in die polish???
For your questions, the diameter is correct, and the metal tests vis sigma appropriately at 90%. Finally, the weight is accurate as well at 4.16-4.20 grams (scale bounces a bit, but usually measures 4.18 grams).
I was a bit shocked at the grade result, but now it is a good learning piece for me.
Raw coins are risky, and that is a common date.
These days slabbed coins are equally risky. It's the world we live in. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
The portrait is way too soft. Look how the left sides of the face and neck slope down into the fields. Turn the coin on its edge and you should see that the reeding isn’t right (the way it meets the rim is visibly wrong even from the side angle here).
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
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Surfaces also look granular
Gobrecht's Engraved Mature Head Large Cent Model
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The thought of it being counterfeit had crossed my mind, but I thought maybe its just bad photos.
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Convincing fake; is it possible it was treated to make it look real? Who palmed the fake off on you?
My first thought was counterfeit.
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Customer at a show (I honestly think he had no idea either, so this is just a "circulating fake"). I took it in trade. Tested it, tested correct weight and purity prior to taking the trade. Looked at it briefly. Also showed it to another dealer (just recently) and it got past him as well. fun fun.