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  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will watch to see how high they go. I don’t own any and find these interesting. Don’t really care about the low numbered ones.

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting sales tactic :)

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  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Special to someone.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are very nice coins. That being said, there will be initial hype and flipping fever. I do not foresee any lasting potential outside of a niche collector market. Cheers, RickO

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Special , like Special Ed. Slow to move ... slow to learn. On the flip side, I love that S&B will get paid for getting rid of the "leftovers". Sorry if that reads cold , callous, mean or rude. It is to our benefit :smiley:

  • brokecollectorbrokecollector Posts: 75 ✭✭✭

    Any guess as to what the actual first strike ASE or AGE will bring?

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Special , like Special Ed. Slow to move ... slow to learn. On the flip side, I love that S&B will get paid for getting rid of the "leftovers". Sorry if that reads cold , callous, mean or rude. It is to our benefit :smiley:

    FWIW, SBG is "waiving" the buyer's premium on these items. Reference

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I too will be interested in how they do. Crazy with no difference between them and an unslabbed or designated piece.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems like they will appeal to the same folks who buy advance release. Zero difference other than the ego trip of saying “I had it first “
    Twice the price to have something certified as being available a week earlier than the commoners. 😁
    Collect what you like, as they say 😉🦫🙀

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  • CoinMeisterCoinMeister Posts: 642 ✭✭✭✭

    They are “special” right now. I can’t see how any of these will hold their premium in years to come. Expensive bragging rights for sure. It will be interesting to follow.

    "What we are never changes, but who we are ... never stops changing."
  • Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • brokecollectorbrokecollector Posts: 75 ✭✭✭

    auction is today

  • coinandcurrency242coinandcurrency242 Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭✭

    I am a hard pass. Just a way to sell super inflated coins and raise money.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @brokecollector said:
    Any guess as to what the actual first strike ASE or AGE will bring?

    5 figures

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2022 9:44AM

    Its just bullion to me. Bullion is bullion and nothing will change that.

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As of right now (lot #26 is "live"):

    ~ the last, and first ASE are at $25,000 each (lots 77 and 78):
    ~ the last and first AGE are at $19,000 each (lots 79 and 80).

    Reference

  • foraiurforaiur Posts: 134 ✭✭✭

    6 figures seems fair.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:
    As of right now (lot #26 is "live"):

    ~ the last, and first ASE are at $25,000 each (lots 77 and 78):
    ~ the last and first AGE are at $19,000 each (lots 79 and 80).

    Reference

    People have lost their minds. Talk about buried in a coin purchase.

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  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will watch what the 4 coin sets actually end up at. Many sets of 4 coins are well under $4000 right now. Melt is around $3500 at today's spot.

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    People have lost their minds. Talk about buried in a coin purchase.

    I am not bidding either.

    That said, I am watching the results with interest. :)

  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Say what you want but what if you could own the 1st, 2nd, 3rd Saint or Walker or SLQ or CHB minted. There is a lot of money out there.

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    People have lost their minds. Talk about buried in a coin purchase.

    Not everybody is an investor. Some people collect coins because they enjoy owning them.

  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 446 ✭✭✭✭

    People pay a lot for low serial numbers for currency so this doesn’t seem materially different to me.

  • foraiurforaiur Posts: 134 ✭✭✭

    The 77k-100k paid for the last & first seems reasonable and a good investment. These have actual historical value and will likely end up somewhere like the Smithsonian years from now. 18k for the 4th ASE or whatever premium the 491st to last goes for...I'd say not so much.

  • brokecollectorbrokecollector Posts: 75 ✭✭✭

    Currency actually has a number on the bill itself. Take the coin out of these special holders and they're just like any other ASE or AGE.

  • foraiurforaiur Posts: 134 ✭✭✭

    The provenance is unimpeachable here. For the actual historical pieces it becomes like the otherwise plain baseball hit for an important homerun or the jersey worn during a major event.

  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 446 ✭✭✭✭

    @brokecollector said:
    Currency actually has a number on the bill itself. Take the coin out of these special holders and they're just like any other ASE or AGE.

    Agree with that assessment. So this is the exception to the rule of “buy the coin and not the holder” lol.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    People have lost their minds. Talk about buried in a coin purchase.

    Not everybody is an investor. Some people collect coins because they enjoy owning them.

    And nobody has a crystal ball to know what the future value will be.

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2022 1:07PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @brokecollector said:

    Any guess as to what the actual first strike ASE or AGE will bring?

    5 figures

    I count 6, but very good guess without hindsight.

    Were you the underbidder? LOL

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  • brokecollectorbrokecollector Posts: 75 ✭✭✭

    The Mint is making a mint on these. I see the Mint selling more first strike coins in the future at auction,

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is this what US coin collecting has become?

    All glory is fleeting.
  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nobody held a gun to anybody's head here. If that's what the bidder is willing to pay, what's the problem?

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So far these are NGC results. The PCGS coins are still in line for the live auction.

    I also notice many of the upcoming PCGS 4-coin sets have a 69, and even some 68's. A detailed comparison of the grades assigned between the services and associated struck numbered sequence would be interesting.

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  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2022 1:46PM

    Did the winning bidder have the same idea as the person that bought the very first 2014 gold Kennedy at ANA for $100,000?

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  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I knew these would be popular but what amazing prices. Great pieces of history. Pretty cool to own the first ever Silver Eagle or Gold Eagle struck. A coin to be proud to own. There are a lot of collectors out there and they have money.

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  • erscoloerscolo Posts: 657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are exactly the same as any other silver or gold eagle minted by the government. The hoopla is all about the label.

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't get it......I just talked with my 2021 Silver Eagle and she told me "she" was the first off the press.

    Mike
    My Indians
    Danco Set

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,646 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bullion.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Must be a lot of money out there looking for a place to go......

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldminers said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @brokecollector said:

    Any guess as to what the actual first strike ASE or AGE will bring?

    5 figures

    I count 6, but very good guess without hindsight.

    Were you the underbidder? LOL

    Well, just the one with a couple close. lots of 5 figure lots, however.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A complete set of ase proofs in pcgs 70 holders 86-22 is about $10,000. Ten complete sets or 2 coins.
    Amazing and interesting 😉🦫🙀

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭✭

    If the US Mint ever starts selling thimbles, ceramic plates and chess sets; we’ll know who stole the Franklin Mint playbook. I could only laugh when the state quarters started in 1999; same idea as FM except now they were real money.

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I love when people hate on other collectors.

    If you want to sit at the cool kids table, you have to like the right things. It's kind of like junior high school... ;)

  • Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I love when people hate on other collectors.

    If you want to sit at the cool kids table, you have to like the right things. It's kind of like junior high school... ;)

    Yep, just like the elementary school proverbial "If you give me a piece of gum, I'll be your best friend!"

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

  • cagcrispcagcrisp Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My observations on the Single coin lots (First 200 lots) of the Stacks Bowers Auction at Dusk and at Dawn.

    NGC is Fighting like Hell.

    An MS70 from NGC for an American Silver Eagle sure receives a Premium.

    NGC graded 1 ASE coin MS67
    NGC graded 5 ASE’s MS68
    NGC graded 74 ASE’s MS69
    NGC graded 20 ASE’s MS70

    Mean for the 100 American Silver Eagles was $4,628.50 (Skewed Heavily by the $85k and $80k coins).
    Median for the 100 American Silver Eagles was $2,000.00

    NGC graded 5 AGE’s MS69 (All Type 2)
    NGC graded 95 AGE’s MS70

    Mean for the 100 American Gold Eagles was $6,397.50 (Skewed Heavily by the $100k and $77.5k coins)
    Median for the 100 American Gold Eagles was $4,000.00

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cagcrisp said:
    My observations on the Single coin lots (First 200 lots) of the Stacks Bowers Auction at Dusk and at Dawn.

    NGC is Fighting like Hell.

    An MS70 from NGC for an American Silver Eagle sure receives a Premium.

    NGC graded 1 ASE coin MS67
    NGC graded 5 ASE’s MS68
    NGC graded 74 ASE’s MS69
    NGC graded 20 ASE’s MS70

    Mean for the 100 American Silver Eagles was $4,628.50 (Skewed Heavily by the $85k and $80k coins).
    Median for the 100 American Silver Eagles was $2,000.00

    NGC graded 5 AGE’s MS69 (All Type 2)
    NGC graded 95 AGE’s MS70

    Mean for the 100 American Gold Eagles was $6,397.50 (Skewed Heavily by the $100k and $77.5k coins)
    Median for the 100 American Gold Eagles was $4,000.00

    Strong prices.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    A complete set of ase proofs in pcgs 70 holders 86-22 is about $10,000. Ten complete sets or 2 coins.
    Amazing and interesting 😉🦫🙀

    2 unique coins or 37 virtually identical ones? Interesting.

    So, you're telling me it is better to have 200,000 2021 ASEs than one 1804 dollars?

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