Hockey error, variations, oddities, rare/unreleased.....
richtree
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Hey guys, I have been putting together a list of all the error, variations, oddities, rare/unreleased cards for my collection.
I ideally wanted a list of the top 150 of these cards.
I wanted to have the top 5 (or 10 if possible from football, basketball, hockey, and non-sport)....because baseball will have so many...
When I say "top" I mean most iconic/impactful/historical --- not so much valuable........
For example, I think the Bill Ripken error would be higher on the list than the 1952 Topps bios...
I am asking for help with hockey ? are there 5 of these to make on a list ? or even 10?
I am a more modern collector, so I know of the Paul Gillis Bloody nose, and vaguely remember a Brett Hull promo card....
and maybe 1990 Upper Deck Promos Wayne Gretzky LA Kings Hockey Card #241
anyone have any thoughts / recommendations ?
thanks
rt
Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon
80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name"
90 ProSet Dexter Manley error
90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back
1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”)
81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat)
91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
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The list is too broad.... Errors is its own list.
Only two known “missing black ink” from 69 opc high series pictured. A handful of other commons exist from the low and possibly high series. Came in wax and vending.
Many aren’t even aware they exist. Very rare.
If I had to take a guess, I would say that the 1970 O-Pee-Chee Brit Selby No Trade is probably the absolute most difficult variation of the commonly known cards from vintage hockey.
1989-90 Topps Randy Cunneyworth Penguins On Front;
1990-91 Pro Set Stanley Cup Hologram No "Stanley Cup" Embossed Text;
1990-91 Pro Set Chelios/Andreychuck/Housley/Nilan without trade snipe on front (may not exist);
1990-91 Score Bob Sweeney 3 Blue Boxes On Front;
1990-91 Score Craig Muni Craig Simpson Photo;
1990-91 Upper Deck Patrick Roy No "Wales" On Front
1995-96 Ultra Extra Wayne Gretzky Kings Photo
Thanks for replies....
I seem to think there isn't an iconic error / variation like Billy Rikpen Face, or frank thomas NNOF, or even like the Football Dexter Manley substance....etc....even Non Sport has the C3P0 Golden Rod......
hopefully there are more replies, but at least you guys have a few to look at .... hockey doesn't seem as exciting.....
Maybe Boxing, Hockey, Non-Sport, and "other" -- should be its own category from the baseball, basketball, footballs if I was to continue with the list....idk...just brainstorming now
Topps White Out (silver) letters Alex Gordon
80 Topps Greg Pryor “No Name"
90 ProSet Dexter Manley error
90 Topps Jeff King Yellow back
1958 Topps Pancho Herrera (no“a”)
81 Topps Art Howe (black smear above hat)
91 D A. Hawkins BC-12 “Pitcher”
1981 Red Rooster Oilers Wayne Gretzky Long Hair variation is somewhat iconic.
Definitely the 1969 OPC Gordie Howe Mr.Hockey. The number on the back is missing on the variation. Finding one WITH the number is very difficult.
With hockey, you'd have a long list if you were including uncorrected errors. The big difference with baseball is that generally, production was such that errors could be caught and corrected. With hockey, errors just lived on. Examples I am thinking of include Steve Larmer/Steve Ludwik pictures being swapped on their OPC rookies, or the Kevin Lowe OPC card that has Gretzky's stats on it. Or just collect the 90-91 Pro Set, where pretty much every other card has an uncorrected error. They couldn't even spell Ray Bourque correctly.
If you want go down rare and unreleased, try the 1991 7th Inning Stretch set. Its a set of OHL, WHL and QMJHL players. Originally a 132 card set, they had to pull 17 cards, including 2 of Eric Lindros, due to rights issues
Which set is this? I love collecting Lindros and am not sure if I have these or not.
The Lindros cards are #96 and #119. The set is the 1991 7th Inning Sketch. There are other Lindros cards in that set too, but they weren’t pulled. Those two are not as expensive as you’d think give how short the print run was.
greetings,,
still looking for these below
and then...
regards goye
Ah, ok. I have them. I was hoping I was on the hunt for some more cards!
I have this unreleased set. The backs say 5 of 6, but i have been unable to locate the 6th card.
https://kennerstartinglineup.blogspot.com/
For both rare and unreleased there’s a 1980 Topps Gretzky all star proof that features a different photo than the one that was used.
Came in packs only. Like the Orr and Esposito names in yellow print on the backs of some 69 opc puzzle cards. Harder to find than the Howe with number.
1979 Topps has a tough error.
Card #8 has Palmateer and Lessards picture reversed.
There’s a sheet on eBay with it.
Tough one
hey goyeinto,
Those are pretty cool..
Since the OP mentioned more modern items: A super tough series to find is the 1998-99 Pacific - Dynagon Ice Inserts - Titanium Ice where the error is that some were printed and distributed without a serial number on the back side (they are supposed to be serial numbered ##/99).
junkwaxgems, I’ve never heard of the 1995-96 Ultra Extra Wayne Gretzky Kings Photo error. What’s the story with that one?
The Gretzky card inserted into packs has him as a St. Louis Blues player but promotional materials show photos of him in his Kings uniform. I believe that a few years back, a copy of it sold on ebay. It appears on several Gretzky master checklists but the origins of its distribution are unknown. Fleer often sent unmarked promo cards to dealers along with sales materials and it is possible that some went out this way. It is also possible that they made their way out through proof sheets.
and then there's this...
These are just wrong backs. Very common in junk era products.
Shelby No trade
22 total graded.
11 psa 8’s
2. PSA 9’s
This card has only 15 psa graded.
2 PSA 8’s and 2 PSA 9’s.
There are only three of these graded.
The black bottom prints are the toughest of all according to the pop reports.
Except for the 69 opc missing black ink. They are the toughest.
The black border issue is somewhat skewed, given that it has only relatively recently been recognized as a variation.
The Selby data are not correct in the PSA population reports.
One of the intriguing aspects of our hobby is that errors are almost worthless, and it is only variations that have value. I suppose I should say that composition errors, such as this:
have value the same as any other card, but errors such as off center cutting or misapplied ink have no value unless, again, there are enough with the exact same ink patterns to constitute a variety, cf 1990 Frank Thomas NNOF.
i'm curious on the story of these, as the Roy does not show up on his player checklist, and I don't recall seeing this in my previous searches. I definitely don't have this on my Roy want lists (yet).
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They were supposed to be inserted into packages of Elite Hockey for Starting Lineup, but I believe Pacific went bankrupt before the product was released. I only found 3 or 4 copies.
https://kennerstartinglineup.blogspot.com/
Some vintage rarities:
C56 Newsy Lalonde #37
V145-1 Bert Corbeau
V130 Maple Crispette Sprague Cleghorn
V129 Anonymous Harry Oliver
1955 Quaker Oats short prints: Lumley, Clancy and Richard
1955 Parkhurst Tim Horton (defense printed upside down)
This one’s not exactly the most iconic, but an interesting junkwax era oddity. 😂
Wow I opened a few boxes of 91/92 Upper Deck back in the day and never knew that card existed. How SP was it? That is cool.
Not overly pricey or valuable but hows these ones for oddities .
Brad31, the story I heard on the Ty Gretzky card was that Upper Deck printed up a batch and gifted it to the Gretzky family. Sort of like the 1990 Topps George Bush card, except 1000x less iconic. I saw Ty Gretzky himself comment on instagram that he had a few of these stashed away.
Bill Monbouquette at least sounds like a hockey players name.
Someone please explain how the 1970 Black bottoms differ from the regular cards.
Is it that the box extends slightly farther towards the bottom of the card?
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Just picked this one up on Ebay. I’ll bet somebody reading this thread was my competition in the auction. I was not expecting to have to pay $56.59!
Or just collect the 90-91 Pro Set, where pretty much every other card has an uncorrected error. They couldn't even spell Ray Bourque correctly.
I finally took pictures
Topps 1980/81 hockey contained numerous photo variations that exist in proof form only (images were changed shortly before production). I don't have the complete list, but the big ones included Gretzky and Lafleur All Star and the Flyers Record Breaker cards. I'll look for photos of the ones in my collection...