Options
GTG on this 1834 bust half…..GRADE REVEALED, WELL SORT OF
drddm
Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭✭✭
I’ve had this 1834 PCGS bust half for several years and don’t post it that often but it’s definitely a favorite. It also happens to be stickered by CAC.
GTG and tell us your reasons for your guess.
Dave
2
Comments
I hate grading photos. 58
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
I don't know this one, so I'll guess.
The high points, especially the obverse, seem to have a little bit of a "glossiness" or "smoothness" that makes me think some luster is gone, and that would be the limiting factor. The reverse has some striking weakness, and the claws seem to exhibit the same "sheen", but for actual wear, I don't really see any.
I'm going to say 58 based on the above, and reserve the right to say 62 in hand.
Pretty coin!
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
I'm at 58. Too much rub on the cheek to let slide for Cabinet Friction IMHO.
When I go AU with some wear - it's a MS weak strike. When I go MS weak strike it's and AU with some wear. So I say AU58 or MS64 - If it is MS weak strike it is a beautiful coin!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
I think it is a 58. Not shocked if it is 55. Just can't see it as MS.
58
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
I'll guess 58
Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM
58
Isn't it just as beautiful at 58?
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Indeed it tis!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
.
looks like you're tapped into the aether as well before reading your post, my thought was:
au58 gold sticker since cabinet friction and similar has been getting a lot of leeway.
beauty of a CBH. if not holdered and stickered, the rev rim at k12 would concern me.
She is one of the least in-chattered 🥰 MS 62 if I may and pardon my lack of knowledge on the subject
To heck with it, I'm gonna break the curve as well with @Steven59 (kinda
), I'm seeing a 64. Really nice!
Coin Photography
55
Very interesting guesses, and commentary as well. I will post the answer tomorrow morning to allow a few more to post their thoughts.
Dave
I think it's in an MS holder, but my interpretation of the images is that the obverse central luster is a bit muted so I will go with MS63.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
58
Tom
AU58. But oh so close to MS.
Lance.
MS63
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
First impression...64
64
I'll go 62.
I believe that this falls in the "would like to have for my collection" grade
She is a beauty!
63?
Thank you, Heavenly Father, for first loving us.
63
I bet it looks great in hand
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
Ok, so the ACTUAL grade of this truly uncirculated coin with no breaks in luster or wear on its high points is….an educated guess, since it’s currently in a PCGS AU58 holder with a gold CAC sticker.
My personal opinion is that it’s somewhere between a 63 and 64, but definitely NOT a 62.
The luster give the surfaces a beautiful liquid-like appearance, and the “wear” or flatness that those see on the high points is due to a slightly weak strike.
Dave
58, or weak strike mid MS . Hard to tell without the coin in hand.
The forum over rules the bean as the forumites are the customers!
😆😆😆
A trick question! I like it, usually the bean goes the other way of the holder, so this is kind of cool! Nice coin!
Coin Photography
@drddm Can we get some slab shots?
Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM
I thought weaker strike on the wing tips... I think she's in a 63 holder
Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
Ok, so the ACTUAL grade of this truly uncirculated coin with no breaks in luster or wear on its high points is….an educated guess, since it’s currently in a PCGS AU58 holder with a gold CAC sticker.
My personal opinion is that it’s somewhere between a 63 and 64, but definitely NOT a 62.
The luster give the surfaces a beautiful liquid-like appearance, and the “wear” or flatness that those see on the high points is due to a slightly weak strike.
Dave
Sorry, she’s currently in the bank SDB.
Dave
62
So everyone was right!
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
That is one of the most un-chattered beauty 🥰 MS62 if may guessed
Dave, inquiring minds want to know…
He said it was 58 gold CAC
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
I believe you on that...and CAC. I don't think I've seen a gold CAC that wasn't under graded by at least one grade.
Tom
That's a notable gap between assigned and perceived. The sticker sort of codifies it. They're saying that what PCGS saw as wear is not actually wear. That's a factual assertion.
Beautiful CBH
MS63> @MS66 said:
The gap isn't nearly as significant as it might sound. Keep in mind that the grade 59 isn't used and 60, rarely is. By way of illustration, the NGC pops for 58, 60 and 61 are 571, 8 and 113, respectively.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.