Negative Nancy would like an explanation
alpha33
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got this in change this AM. All I have is a phone camera so this is likely to be as good as the pics get. Thanks
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It's a dirt common issue, millions were saved, mintage 256,755,000, and 99.9% are better than this beat up piece of junk. At best, it's worth $ 0.02.
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Well now. That’s rather interesting. ( screenshot with trimming on iPhone 7) 😉🙀🦫
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It's a DAMAGED one.
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If you find hitting a one with a chisel interesting....
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Let it get run over a few time at a Walmart parking lot. It may improve it and put that 1 back together!
bob
perhaps @RobertLahti can proffer an explanation
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
They are right. But you could always fill out a submission form and send it to these people. Post the results here when you get it back.
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I see what you are referring to with the digit '1'. However, until you can provide a much more close-up photo of the area to make a better judgement, 99% sure it is caused by damage, as evidenced by the damage over the rest of the coin.
An obviously damaged coin. Nothing more.
That's why a close up clear photo is needed. Most likely a portion was 'shaved off' from parking lot motion or friction; if so a trace would be shown by the closeup photo.
Most damage cannot be duplicated due to the granular characteristics of the material.
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I've seen lots of "mystery" damage, for example, from coin rolling machines (which is not what damaged your coin.). If the slice is sharp enough and at the coin's surface it can appear to wipe away the impacted letter/number.
Plus, your coin circulated after damage, further covering up the evidence.
Lastly, if not PMD, then what do you think it is? How did the incused area of the die get filled without a trace while an adjacent area on the die got magically engraved with a new character?
Interesting. 😉🙀🦫
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A sharp object such as a chisel.or knife hit that coin many times. The hit to the "1" is most likely from the same device.
If you want the name of the guy who did it, the date it was done, etc., you're out of luck.
Way to undersell it by over 50%…. It is worth about 3c
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If you take the time to study the info on how dies are made and the the minting process, you'll easily see that this cannot occur at the mint. Not during die making. Not during striking. If it can't occur at the mint, it can't be an error.
If it was cut. If the whole section of metal was pushed, then maybe not.
All of this is academic. The die was not modified to create that anomoly.
You got the same answer at CCF, why do you think it’s not a damaged coin?
My advice is that if you find something that you think is valuable you should slab it and disregard any other opinions. You can then sell it on eBay and make us all look wrong.
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A cent made in the year 953 - that is spectacular
You didn’t ask anything in your post so far as I can tell.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
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Sounds like a long-time UFO skeptic right after his first sighting.
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Good point. Maybe aliens moved the “1”.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
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That prompted me to look at some of your recent responses to PMD...
Ordinarily I don't mind some good-natured sarcasm. But consider dialing it back when it's directed at newbies who are obviously new to the hobby.
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I just find this piece interesting for the lack of physical evidence.
This coin was damaged probably 50+ years ago. It's interesting when evidence does survive after 50+ years. There is nothing noteworthy when evidence gets lost over the span of decades.
There is obvious damage. The 1 might have been originally a little short (grease filled die) or not - 1950's vintage wheaties have short ones. But the curl was created by simply hitting the one with the same thing that put MULTIPLE digs in the rest of the coin.
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It didn't move. It's in the original location with a cut in the middle
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Seems he dishes it out better than he takes it...
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It took me about 30 seconds. I grabbed a 1950's wheatie...they tend to have short initial ones. I took the jewelry screwdriver from my desk drawer and shoved it into the one. Now, I hit a little higher than a meant and it needs to spend some time in my pocket to smooth down the rough edges...but I'll settle for $50. You should be able to now get some sense of how it happened along with all the other sharp hits that the coin took.
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Can we all observe a moment of silence for the 1951-D cent that, after surviving for 71 years gave its life for the sake of numismatic education......
.......Amen.
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I would further suggest that you note where the bottom of my one is and where the bottom of your curly cue is: same place. There is no movement of the one or even any loss of the bottom of the one. Your one is exactly where it should be but APPEARS to be curved due to a hit across the middle of it.
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Too many people listing coins like this on eBay, trying to pass them off as legitimate errors. And when I try to inform them about the coin, they don’t want to hear it and respond to me as if I’m an idiot that has no clue what he’s talking about. I’ve been collecting coins for 48 years and selling for the past 20 years, and I’ve specialized in rare die varieties for the past 25 years. I hate seeing this hobby being trampled by newbies with little to no feedback. Most of them have no interest in learning about coins. They’re just listing junk, at very high prices mind you, with the hopes that some unsuspecting uneducated buyer comes along and makes the mistake of purchasing their junk. They have no respect for the hobby whatsoever, and that really pisses me off. Some go so far as to telling me that I should educate them on what they’re selling. Not my responsibility! There are plenty of resources available to learn about coins and rare die varieties. I was always told that if I wanted to get involved with any hobby, “buy the book” first. That is the responsible thing to do. Seems like many people nowadays don’t want to take responsibility for anything. It’s always someone else’s fault or problem.
On the original coin in this post, No offense intended, I’m really not trying to be a smart-ass, but for the life of me, I just can’t comprehend how somebody could look at a coin like this and not realize that it’s damage. To me, it’s just common sense. Coins like this are just not produced by the mint. Through 48 years of collecting I have never seen a coin like this produced at the mint. All of those heavy hits, just not possible at the mint.
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...Sigh... No good deed goes unpunished. I foolishly assumed you --really-- wanted truthful answers. So I gave my truthful opinion but I now see the errors of my thoughts and opinion and knowledge. I retract what I thought was the sound advice, and concede to you. The advice I now give is some that you appear to have given someone else (as posted above):
" VERY RARE coin.....send it out for grading ASAP ".
'nuff wasted time on my part.... ...good luck on your continued fortune in the numismatic field and collecting endeavors.
Someone owes you some money jmlanzaf 😂🤣🥳
Definitely save it for melt value.
Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc
Agreed - the inflicted damage probably lowered the value of the coin by a sold 1/2 cent.😉
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Nah... with copper at $4.28 per pound, it still melts around 3 cents.
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Yes, but it was worth 3 1/2 cents before you ruined it.😄
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Lol.
Is it ruined or enhanced?
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