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Three coin guess the grade. Grades revealed.

ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 18, 2022 5:46PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I have been relatively quite buying coins for some time know. I have broken out in a big way! Here are 3 new purchases for you to comment on and guess the grade.

  1. 1864 CN MS64


  1. 1869 MS65BN


  1. 1871 MS64RB


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    scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will take a shot.

    1. MS65RB
    2. MS66BN
    3. MS66RB
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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 4,411 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. MS65RD
    2. MS66BN
    3. MS64+RB

    The carbon spots really dragged down the last one for me compared to the other two, but I could see it being a 65.

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    KOYNGUYKOYNGUY Posts: 205 ✭✭✭✭

    1864 CN cannot be RD/RB/BR
    1 - MS63-TO MS64
    2 - MS65 BRN
    3 - MS-60 CLEANED OR RECOLORED
    J.P.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 17, 2022 5:41PM
    1. MS65
    2. PR? 65BN
    3. MS64RB
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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65, 65BN, 64RB

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65
    66+
    64

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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65,66,64

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    MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65+
    66 BN
    65RB

    Martin

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66, 66, 65..... Nice pictures.... Not sure if the coins would grade as well... :D;) Cheers, RickO

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,075 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Funny thing is, a collector asked me to grade some raw coins he was interested in buying. I said, " I don't grade them , I price them.
    If a guy wants them graded he can submit them."

    He walked.

    No deal. Big deal.
    I like your coins.
    If I submitted them, they'd come back "cleaned" , or worse (environmental damage)
    But I'd sell them priced in the MS64 range.

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    5
    4rb
    4rb - though I'd bag this one personally.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66, 66BN, 65+RB
    I like them all.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2022 7:06AM

    I will reveal the grades later today. A few points. There are no carbon spots. I would say what you are seeing is breaks in the toning. The 64 is prooflike and the 71 reverse is also prooflike. To @DelawareDoons not if you saw it in hand. The photos are good and represent the coins well. This is one of those occasions where in hand is much better than the photo. I will take some photos when I get my camera set up out. Maybe today if the rain keeps up.

    The coins are graded by PCGS. Gen 4.3 from 2005 so you know they are stable.

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    jedmjedm Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2022 7:13AM

    1864 - 64
    1869 - 65BN This one is the standout of the three in my opinion.
    1871 - I was going to guess this one as questionable color; however, you mentioned you've been on a buying binge and I don't think you bought it raw and submitted for grading. So I've edited my post and I'm guessing this one as 64RB

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64
    66bn
    65rb

    Tom

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64
    65BN
    64RB

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65 65 64

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The grades are:

    64
    65BN
    64RB

    A couple people hit it right on. Thanks for guessing and commenting.

    In hand I could not be happier with these coins. Each coin is extremely high end and likely under graded. I would buy coins like this all day long.

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    rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭

    I really like the 1869👍

    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I got one right :D
    They sure were tough on the 69. Why do you think that is? Weak strike on the reverse or is it cause it’s brown and those rarely ever go above 66? Compilation of both or am I totally missing something.

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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    I got one right :D
    They sure were tough on the 69. Why do you think that is? Weak strike on the reverse or is it cause it’s brown and those rarely ever go above 66? Compilation of both or am I totally missing something.

    The coin is hammered and near perfect. It was graded almost 20 years ago so that may have played a part. I believe it is a strong candidate for an upgrade but I believe that about many of my coins. I can tell you I am willing to pay over book for coins I think are deserving. I have not submitted coins for quite a while but when I was I did receive many upgrades. I prefer to own under graded coins than maxed out coffin coins.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was off by a grade point each. Must be why I collected AU mostly. lol
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2022 8:18PM

    @jesbroken said:
    I was off by a grade point each. Must be why I collected AU mostly. lol
    Jim

    Actually you are probably closer than PCGS. If the coins were resubmitted I think you would be batting a thousand!

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ironmanl63 I would send her she’ll still look good in a 67. She got eye appeal, C’mon man!

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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 67 would look very nice and fitting! Shes no dog face pony soldier that's for sure. LOL.

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