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smallstocks
smallstocks Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I would appreciate some opinions regarding Richard Simon and his reliability for sports autographs. I posted this same message in the autographs forum but few people seem to visit that forum. In fact, I hadn't even noticed that it existed until this week.


Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports

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  • jimq112
    jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
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    Everything I got from him is now in a PSA holder. No worries at all; great seller.

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  • nam812
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    I am in favor of any thread that brings jimq112 to the forum.

  • Ironmanfan
    Ironmanfan Posts: 5,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    He's respected in the industry
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  • smallstocks
    smallstocks Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2022 1:10PM
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    Just for the record. I brought a bunch of items to JSA a client of mine bought from him years back and every one of them was deemed a fake.


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  • 1982FootballWax
    1982FootballWax Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The only way to 100% ensure not getting a forgery is to not purchase autographs.

    The FBI estimates that roughly 50 percent of vintage sports memorabilia on the market is fraudulent. Other experts put the figure closer to 80 percent. With so much available online, it can be difficult to distinguish between an authentic signature and a bogus one. To ensure that you’re getting the real thing, stick to items that have been authenticated by one of the leading third-party authentication services, such as PSA/DNA or JSA.

    https://www.chubb.com/us-en/individuals-families/resources/what-not-to-collect-in-sports-memorabilia.html

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  • jimq
    jimq Posts: 298 ✭✭✭
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    i might try a different authenticator. Richard Simon is one of the best.

  • smallstocks
    smallstocks Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2022 2:37PM
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    Of course I can, but JSA is way better known than Richard Simon for authentication, and now looking at the differences between the real thing and the ones my client has, I can easily see it. So odd.


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  • Ironmanfan
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    can you post scans of what you purchased?

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  • smallstocks
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    This was one of 4 items presented to JSA at a card show. When I returned a couple hours later they asked where I got everything. I explained that a client had purchased them all from Richard Simon. Then they broke the bad news to me.


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  • 1982FootballWax
    1982FootballWax Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @smallstocks said:
    This was one of 4 items presented to JSA at a card show. When I returned a couple hours later they asked where I got everything. I explained that a client had purchased them all from Richard Simon. Then they broke the bad news to me.

    Mantle, DiMaggio and Williams all signed metric tons of items in the 80's and 90's and as i recall they are all at or near the top of autograph authentication submissions. As such they are the easiest for any "authenticator" to spot fakes. If JSA came to that conclusion I'm sure DNA easily will as well. Sorry man that sucks.

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  • Ironmanfan
    Ironmanfan Posts: 5,568 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Mr. Simon (to his credit) offers a lifetime guarantee on the autographs he sells....Your client should reach out to him.

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  • smallstocks
    smallstocks Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The problem is my client bought these years ago, has no recollection of what he paid, and honestly doesn't possess the backbone to discuss this with Mr. Simon. Especially considering there are a multiple of items that are not authentic that he bought from him.


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  • RufussCkingston
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    @smallstocks said:
    The problem is my client bought these years ago, has no recollection of what he paid, and honestly doesn't possess the backbone to discuss this with Mr. Simon. Especially considering there are a multiple of items that are not authentic that he bought from him.

    Forget about what was paid, I'd just reach out to start a dialogue.. Not sure a backbone is involved unless Simon's gonna say JSA is wrong! Since he is your "client", can't you do it on his behalf? Would be good for the community to hear what Simon does in this situation. Simon probably knows what your client paid.

  • smallstocks
    smallstocks Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I am going to give it a try. I will report back!


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  • daltex
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    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:
    The only way to 100% ensure not getting a forgery is to not purchase autographs.

    The FBI estimates that roughly 50 percent of vintage sports memorabilia on the market is fraudulent. Other experts put the figure closer to 80 percent. With so much available online, it can be difficult to distinguish between an authentic signature and a bogus one. To ensure that you’re getting the real thing, stick to items that have been authenticated by one of the leading third-party authentication services, such as PSA/DNA or JSA.

    https://www.chubb.com/us-en/individuals-families/resources/what-not-to-collect-in-sports-memorabilia.html

    This is not necessary. The only way to 100% ensure not getting a forgery is to get one in person.

  • RufussCkingston
    RufussCkingston Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2022 1:28AM
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    @daltex said:

    This is not necessary. The only way to 100% ensure not getting a forgery is to get one in person.

    Hah, I did that and PSA said all my 1989-1991 spring training obtained Griffey Jr. autos could not be deemed authentic!

    I'm not bitter or anything ;)

  • Cakes
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    Wow, so many

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  • swish54
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    edited February 18, 2022 8:20PM
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    @RufussCkingston said:

    @daltex said:

    This is not necessary. The only way to 100% ensure not getting a forgery is to get one in person.

    Hah, I did that and PSA said all my 1989-1991 spring training obtained Griffey Jr. autos could not be deemed authentic!

    I'm not bitter or anything ;)

    Same thing happened to me when I subbed my dozen or so Trout's all at one time. I got them all when he was an 18 year old baseball america prospect in the low minors one season. Started sending them in one by one until all passed. Guess they figured noone would have that many early Griffey's or Trout's, so none must be real.

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