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What Say You? ..... The Big Reveal, Photos Added

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edited January 10, 2022 10:45AM in U.S. Coin Forum

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Machine doubling. ;)

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,616 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Machine doubling. Not a doubled die.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,722 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That limited view suggests MD

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  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Absolutely shelf doubling

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Aren't these dies laser engraved now?

    If so, I assume it's not possible to have a doubled die.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 9, 2022 3:25PM

    I will say that if anyone is going to make shift doubling cool, it would be @ErrorsOnCoins!

    For error collectors, shift doubling is really where it's at as doubled dies are considered varieties, not errors!

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  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Double struck

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also see MD. Flat, no evidence of split serifs and look at the left side if the 1. See the notch on the vertical part just below the seriph of the 1. I don't see how that could occur on Class IX doubling (assuming it's a single squeeze process) or any other class.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 9, 2022 11:35AM

  • Che_GrapesChe_Grapes Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Happens when some bolts get loose!!

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that is an oddity to me. Never seen a reverse notch before.
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    Now that is an oddity to me. Never seen a reverse notch before.
    Jim

    Think it through ;)

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One response was right and that person gets an .....

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What does the PCGS label say?

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:
    What does the PCGS label say?

    Missing Edge Lettering and a few other letters :D:)<3>:)o:)<3

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I finally finished the close-up images. Very cool coin.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe the label says, in addition, 'C. O.' (two words)

    (I won't say what C O means till EoC posts the label -
    and it might not say that, but I think it does.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    I believe the label says, in addition, 'C. O.' (two words)

    (I won't say what C O means till EoC posts the label -
    and it might not say that, but I think it does.

    I have no idea what the two words C O are, but I am curious ;)

    Here is what the label says... IMO in Bold the holder should say "Double Struck in Collar, MEL". As double struck is way, way, way more important than MEL.

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What does the other side of the coin look like?

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the obverse image and a close-up. The double strike shows less on the obverse altho it can be seen IGWT.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes I put "Dbl. Struck Close Overlap' or 'Close Overlap D/S'

    I believe it was PCGS's choice to put the MEL on the top line......

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    Sometimes I put "Dbl. Struck Close Overlap' or 'Close Overlap D/S'

    I believe it was PCGS's choice to put the MEL on the top line......

    Thank you Fred.

    Can the label be changed to "Double Struck in Collar, MEL" if I pay for a reholder?

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You'd have to ask customer service and Jon.

    I would think he can approve it - I don't see a problem.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 11, 2022 10:24AM

    Fred, Do you remember about how many of these that you attributed as I am trying to assess rarity?

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not exactly - there was a small group of these D/S's like yours,
    that came out about 11-12 years ago - I'd say there were about
    6-8 like that - MEL w/ a close overlapped D/S or broadstruck.

    Hope this helps a bit.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes indeed and I thank you.

    This is the third one that I have handled, so approximately half the population.

    A very under appreciated coin for sure ;)

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool coin and excellent pictures!

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  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭

    I like double struck rotated in collar coins. nice $.

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 11, 2022 11:37PM

    @Type2 said:
    I like this one.

    This machine doubling coin, the 1969s, sold on ebay for approximately $50-$70! Maybe even higher? Can't remember.
    Plus, the owner specified that it was mechanical doubled too!

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Crazy I have some that I tossed back in the rolls I looked at some time ago.😳



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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2022 12:30AM

    @Type2 said:
    Crazy I have some that I tossed back in the rolls I looked at some time ago.😳

    Me too! Oh well, "what's one man's junk, is another man's treasure." Lol
    Sorry ErrorsOnCoins, for hijacking your thread. Very cool topic coin. Good eye! <3

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    Crazy I have some that I tossed back in the rolls I looked at some time ago.😳

    Some what? MD or D/S?

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure everyone is understanding this...

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