I also see MD. Flat, no evidence of split serifs and look at the left side if the 1. See the notch on the vertical part just below the seriph of the 1. I don't see how that could occur on Class IX doubling (assuming it's a single squeeze process) or any other class.
I believe the label says, in addition, 'C. O.' (two words)
(I won't say what C O means till EoC posts the label -
and it might not say that, but I think it does.
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@FredWeinberg said:
I believe the label says, in addition, 'C. O.' (two words)
(I won't say what C O means till EoC posts the label -
and it might not say that, but I think it does.
I have no idea what the two words C O are, but I am curious
Here is what the label says... IMO in Bold the holder should say "Double Struck in Collar, MEL". As double struck is way, way, way more important than MEL.
Sometimes I put "Dbl. Struck Close Overlap' or 'Close Overlap D/S'
I believe it was PCGS's choice to put the MEL on the top line......
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I would think he can approve it - I don't see a problem.
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Not exactly - there was a small group of these D/S's like yours,
that came out about 11-12 years ago - I'd say there were about
6-8 like that - MEL w/ a close overlapped D/S or broadstruck.
Hope this helps a bit.
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This machine doubling coin, the 1969s, sold on ebay for approximately $50-$70! Maybe even higher? Can't remember.
Plus, the owner specified that it was mechanical doubled too!
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Crazy I have some that I tossed back in the rolls I looked at some time ago.😳
Me too! Oh well, "what's one man's junk, is another man's treasure." Lol
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Flat, shelflike... MD.
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Machine doubling.
Machine doubling. Not a doubled die.
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That limited view suggests MD
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Absolutely shelf doubling
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Aren't these dies laser engraved now?
If so, I assume it's not possible to have a doubled die.
I will say that if anyone is going to make shift doubling cool, it would be @ErrorsOnCoins!
For error collectors, shift doubling is really where it's at as doubled dies are considered varieties, not errors!
Double struck
I also see MD. Flat, no evidence of split serifs and look at the left side if the 1. See the notch on the vertical part just below the seriph of the 1. I don't see how that could occur on Class IX doubling (assuming it's a single squeeze process) or any other class.
I like this one.
Hoard the keys.
Happens when some bolts get loose!!
Now that is an oddity to me. Never seen a reverse notch before.
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What does the PCGS label say?
Missing Edge Lettering and a few other letters
I finally finished the close-up images. Very cool coin.
I believe the label says, in addition, 'C. O.' (two words)
(I won't say what C O means till EoC posts the label -
and it might not say that, but I think it does.
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
I have no idea what the two words C O are, but I am curious
Here is what the label says... IMO in Bold the holder should say "Double Struck in Collar, MEL". As double struck is way, way, way more important than MEL.
What does the other side of the coin look like?
Here is the obverse image and a close-up. The double strike shows less on the obverse altho it can be seen IGWT.
Sometimes I put "Dbl. Struck Close Overlap' or 'Close Overlap D/S'
I believe it was PCGS's choice to put the MEL on the top line......
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Thank you Fred.
Can the label be changed to "Double Struck in Collar, MEL" if I pay for a reholder?
You'd have to ask customer service and Jon.
I would think he can approve it - I don't see a problem.
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Fred, Do you remember about how many of these that you attributed as I am trying to assess rarity?
Not exactly - there was a small group of these D/S's like yours,
that came out about 11-12 years ago - I'd say there were about
6-8 like that - MEL w/ a close overlapped D/S or broadstruck.
Hope this helps a bit.
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Yes indeed and I thank you.
This is the third one that I have handled, so approximately half the population.
A very under appreciated coin for sure
Cool coin and excellent pictures!
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I like double struck rotated in collar coins. nice $.
This machine doubling coin, the 1969s, sold on ebay for approximately $50-$70! Maybe even higher? Can't remember.
Plus, the owner specified that it was mechanical doubled too!
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Crazy I have some that I tossed back in the rolls I looked at some time ago.😳
Hoard the keys.
Me too! Oh well, "what's one man's junk, is another man's treasure." Lol
Sorry ErrorsOnCoins, for hijacking your thread. Very cool topic coin. Good eye!
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Some what? MD or D/S?
I'm not sure everyone is understanding this...