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strike through, worn die? curious as to cause

OnedollarnohollarOnedollarnohollar Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭
edited January 10, 2022 7:34PM in U.S. Coin Forum

what do you see here? indentation through "states of a" of coin. also a indented line underneath the eagle's lower wing may be a strike through?

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My dumb guess is a strike thru.

    The weak star under A is what makes me think that. ;)

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The line is not uncommon on small golden dollars.

    I’ve always assumed it was from a low pressure contact.

    It’s nothing special

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears to have been a strike through of 'something'... Cheers, RickO

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    It appears to have been a strike through of 'something'... Cheers, RickO

    For a depressed coin service, would that be not just a e.g. grease filled die, but grease overfilled die?

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  • OnedollarnohollarOnedollarnohollar Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭

    I was hoping for a more definitive idea of what happened to this coin. I've looked at thousands of Sacagawea Dollars without ever seeing this anomaly before but I'm not the expert on this panel to judge strike throughs vs. grease filled dies vs. defective planchets vs. worn dies. That's why I posted it. Just for the education and edification.

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 3 top stars seem weak and the tips of the wing feathers appear flat.
    Those areas look like typical grease fill.
    The other area in the lettering is unusual but grease could move or pile anywhere on the die.
    If you have what looks like grease fill in one area and you have something else right next to it there's a fair chance it's the same thing.
    It doesn't appear to me to be a die or planchet problem.

    I'm sticking with strike thru.... grease filled die. ;)

    Can you confirm if the stars & wing look like grease fill to you with the coin in hand?

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does look like struck through grease error but I haven't seen one where the fields would have incuse features. but I guess it could happen as the grease builds up and gets hardened from heat building up due to the friction of the strike.

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  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    Does look like struck through grease error but I haven't seen one where the fields would have incuse features. but I guess it could happen as the grease builds up and gets hardened from heat building up due to the friction of the strike.

    That's what I was thinking... surprised that a struck through could leave depressed/incuse feature. Hmm. Interesting!

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Onedollarnohollar said:
    [ strike throughs vs. grease filled dies vs. defective planchets vs. worn dies. ]

    Actually could be a combo "Strike thru AND a Grease filled die", or "Struck thru a grease filled die" as stated in above posts, if defective planchet where there wasn't enough metal to be pushed up into the die then the Obverse should (?) show some weakness also (but no obverse pic), worn dies would cause raised "ridge rings", not incuse rings.

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a piece of what some mint grease looks like there may softer or harder mixtures of it.

  • OnedollarnohollarOnedollarnohollar Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭

    This is the obverse pic. no noticeable affects that were influenced by the reverse anomaly. Thanks to all who opined. Guessing there's no way to know for sure. I would say it's at least uncommon or someone would have shown other examples and what was determined about their unique features. Just another mystery in the universe to wonder about.

  • 1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭

    may have been a defective planchet to start with when struck, hence the weak areas of detail. Grease seems to be a like less details or entire missing details because of the obstruction.

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