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  • jcping
    jcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
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    @PerryHall said:
    Most likely the charms or tokens without denominations were struck during period 3. The period 2 coins (1859-1882) had denominations while the period 3 coins (post 1882) with denominations were back dated to before 1882 so they wouldn't get in trouble with the anticounterfeiting laws.

    If you examine enough CNDG and study their weight, you won’t make this period 3 statement. Many No denomination cal gold were from period 2 -)

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  • PerryHall
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    @jcping said:

    @PerryHall said:
    Most likely the charms or tokens without denominations were struck during period 3. The period 2 coins (1859-1882) had denominations while the period 3 coins (post 1882) with denominations were back dated to before 1882 so they wouldn't get in trouble with the anticounterfeiting laws.

    If you examine enough CNDG and study their weight, you won’t make this period 3 statement. Many No denomination cal gold were from period 2 -)

    They were likely produced during period 3 (post 1882) and back dated to before 1882 just as were the period 3 coins having denominations. Many were struck using the un-denominated dies left over from the period 2.

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  • Weiss
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    From my wife's uncle's collection. Unfortunately we don't know the family history:

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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  • lkenefic
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    Interesting thread... lots of history in the series with lots of potential pitfalls if you don't know what you're doing... I'll stay on the sideline and munch my popcorn... ;)

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  • edwardjulio
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    NLH

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  • Weiss
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    @edwardjulio said:
    @Weiss
    From my wife's uncle's collection. Unfortunately we don't know the _family _history:
    Possiby Robert B. Gray & Co., 1858-71
    BG765 R3
    "Obverse with 'broken nose;' cracked from coronet point to ear, from bun to throat. The guidelines joining bases of DOLLAR and of CAL normally would have been polished off before die went to press. Cracks, rim to wreath at 1:00 and 8:00. Usual brilliant Prooflike Uncirculated surfaces."

    Yep, I'm a numismatist too ;)

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