Nice coins! Good to see you up and around. Sure sign your on the mend🙀🤓. Great price. $65-70 and up on eBay. $40 👍🏼

I think @joeykoins might be confusing the mintages of the proof set and the mint set ?

@joeykoins said:
Hi guys,
Yes! I don't know what took me so long to pull the trigger on this glorious transitional Proof Set.
It's the low mintage (697,365) 2009 Silver Proof Set.
Seriously contemplating buying more of these sets.
I can very easily seeing thses go UP In value.
Thanks guys.

I have pretty much almost all of the annual sets (clad, silver, Prestige Proof sets & limited editions from 2012 onwards etc.) and finally stopped buying them last year.
Sold price listings on eBay were not very convincing plus the mint started charging more and more for the new releases.

Don't think the Limited Edition prices for 2020 and 2021 will drop much because of the transition year for ASE etc. but from personal experience it is best if one were to wait till prices hit rock bottom for older sets on eBay and then snag them.

Just my two cents as always

Unless things have changed in the past two years the silver proof sets of that era are the kiss of death in the marketplace.

2009 was a really interesting year for coins. Huge mint and proof set, no proof silver eagle, and low mintage business strikes particularly on the dime and nickel.

I personally think mint sets are are still as good of an investment as the have historically been over the previous many decades

@vulcanize said:

@Crypto said:
I personally think mint sets are are still as good of an investment as the have historically been over the previous many decades

Barring the very earliest few sets I really doubt it.

https://www.greysheet.com/news/story/proof-sets-a-bust-buy-or-best-buy

Having bought many for way lesser than what was the issue price at that time. and also factoring in inflation with dollar losing value etc., somehow the final numbers just did not make any sense.

Just my two cents as always.

Given how bad they were and that many are barely selling above face value, it's hard to argue with Crypto's point. They simply can't go down as much a they did in the past.

in general things made for collectors typically don’t have staying power as collectibles. It is utilitarian items that get used up that people seek out later that stand the test of time.

That's a cool set @joeykoins!
If you enjoy low mintage proofs, you might really enjoy the 1936-42 sets, and the sets of the early 50's. Many of the coins from 1936 to 1939 have mintages under 10,000(!!) and are relatively affordable, well the 1936's aren't, but 37-42 are. I've been working on my 36-42 proof set for a couple years now and it has been a lot of fun, I am down to needing just one coin.

https://proofsetguide.com/proof-set-mintage/

@privatecoin said:
Don't forget the cents in the Uncirculated mint set were also copper. Not just the proofs.

Yes, and the mintage of those coppers in the mint set were about 1/4 those of the proofs IIRC

Nice set - good pick up. It's good to see true collectors really appreciate the beauty of the coins. It's not all about the value - buts its nice to have $2.10 in 90% in the set to support the pricing.

@SlipKid said:
Current melt (including face for the non-silver coins) is $39.54. Can't go wrong paying $40 in my opinion.

That's the way these all get priced. Silver proof sets, other than the last year or two, largely trade at melt + face (wholesale). They have for years. I'm not sure why the market eschews them, but it does.

If you take a collection of Proof sets to a dealer, they will actually discount the silver sets more than the clad sets. It's kind of interesting.

Great price, no matter what. Love the coins and looks like the Lincoln’s are getting super nice toning.
Right there you made some nice money. Glad you back to semi normalcy

@SlipKid said:
Current melt (including face for the non-silver coins) is $39.54. Can't go wrong paying $40 in my opinion.> @jmlanzaf said:

@SlipKid said:
Current melt (including face for the non-silver coins) is $39.54. Can't go wrong paying $40 in my opinion.

That's the way these all get priced. Silver proof sets, other than the last year or two, largely trade at melt + face (wholesale). They have for years. I'm not sure why the market eschews them, but it does.

If you take a collection of Proof sets to a dealer, they will actually discount the silver sets more than the clad sets. It's kind of interesting.

Yes, but the price of the older clad sets is pretty much locked in. You can always find someone to pay melt for the silver proofs so the silver sets have the potential to rise more. $30 silver and these will be $50 melt (including the dollars), the clad will still bring whatever they were bringing today.

And $14 silver...

The market does work both ways.

And $14 silver...

The market does work both ways.

Yeah - but I just look at it as similar to buying a 5 or 10-oz bar. And as a bonus, a lot of the proof sets have some numismatic value too. If (when?) silver goes down that low, the 2009 set will hold it's value pretty well.

@jmlanzaf said:

@joeykoins said:

@291fifth said:
Unless things have changed in the past two years the silver proof sets of that era are the kiss of death in the marketplace.

Really? The PCGS price guide shows "green along with the arrow showing up".

All arrows are up this year. But they are dogs in the marketplace.

One thing's for sure we can always count on @jmlanzaf to rain on any parade we get started around here!

@joeykoins said:
Thanks guys!
Lol. You know what?

It just hit me. Lol

This year set, 2009, was the year my little sister's son, believe it or not, joey, was born! Lol. Yes, on Christmas day, my nephew, joey, was born. Here's the best part. For a gift to my sister, I gave her, what else? Yes, the 2009 proof set. The clad set. I just didn't give her the boxed set. I made a special frame with all the coins and Joey's picture in the frame too! Lol. When I get a chance to take a picture of the frame, I will show you guys. It's beautiful! Totally forgot I've done this and forgot it was the 2009 proof set.

So you see, this set is more special than I first thought.

@jedm said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@joeykoins said:

@291fifth said:
Unless things have changed in the past two years the silver proof sets of that era are the kiss of death in the marketplace.

Really? The PCGS price guide shows "green along with the arrow showing up".

All arrows are up this year. But they are dogs in the marketplace.

One thing's for sure we can always count on @jmlanzaf to rain on any parade we get started around here!

Not true. Check out the Peace Dollar thread.

I could lie to you, but then you'd just accuse me off a pump and dump.

I had been working on a Kennedy Half Dollar set, circulation strikes only, for quite a few years (Dansco 7166) and it runs out with the 2017-D. I got a good deal on Dansco Kennedy Half Dollar 1964-2011 album (8166) after I looked and I had a bunch of proof sets that I decided to break out and add the proofs to the mix. Then I got a fair deal on the 2012- (8177) album. So, now my set doesn't look nearly as nice since it has a whole more holes in it. I'm going to break out the proof sets, grab the half dollars and add them to the album and then I guess will hit Ebay and start looking for deals on proof sets. I'm not interested in getting any of them already slabbed. I want to fill the album.

My wife has to help since I can't read the dates on the coins or the albums but she shows me which coin goes in which slot. All of a sudden I am back in the 1970s filling an album, feeling the heft as new coins are added, and enjoying the glint of the proof coins among the uncriculated ones. It makes me feel almost young again.

It's not a really large investment and I don't see it bringing huge dollars when either I run out of time or holes to fill, but it's worth what it cost just for the enjoyment of filling the holes. I've done most of the other sets in the old days when I could see better and you could actually buy coins and dicker over the grades, prior to the slabbing days. Most of the sets, when sold, were broken out, the key coins sold separately and the non-key silver coins went, for the most part, into the silver bucket.

This is a strange hobby but I still love it and get a lot of enjoyment out of what I can still do.

So now, anyone have a link to good inexpensive proof sets and silver proof sets that I can break up to get the halves?

@Klif50 said:
I had been working on a Kennedy Half Dollar set, circulation strikes only, for quite a few years (Dansco 7166) and it runs out with the 2017-D. I got a good deal on Dansco Kennedy Half Dollar 1964-2011 album (8166) after I looked and I had a bunch of proof sets that I decided to break out and add the proofs to the mix. Then I got a fair deal on the 2012- (8177) album. So, now my set doesn't look nearly as nice since it has a whole more holes in it. I'm going to break out the proof sets, grab the half dollars and add them to the album and then I guess will hit Ebay and start looking for deals on proof sets. I'm not interested in getting any of them already slabbed. I want to fill the album.

My wife has to help since I can't read the dates on the coins or the albums but she shows me which coin goes in which slot. All of a sudden I am back in the 1970s filling an album, feeling the heft as new coins are added, and enjoying the glint of the proof coins among the uncriculated ones. It makes me feel almost young again.

It's not a really large investment and I don't see it bringing huge dollars when either I run out of time or holes to fill, but it's worth what it cost just for the enjoyment of filling the holes. I've done most of the other sets in the old days when I could see better and you could actually buy coins and dicker over the grades, prior to the slabbing days. Most of the sets, when sold, were broken out, the key coins sold separately and the non-key silver coins went, for the most part, into the silver bucket.

This is a strange hobby but I still love it and get a lot of enjoyment out of what I can still do.

So now, anyone have a link to good inexpensive proof sets and silver proof sets that I can break up to get the halves?

This is what the hobby should be about, collecting what you want regardless of future potential return values. I have my own collection of business strike Kennedy half dollars that I'm keeping up with, and with the 2021 coins being issued for circulation, there is the new challenge of finding them rather than buying them.