It's more contagious but not necessarily more virulent. It may also only appear to affect children more. A large percentage of children are represented in New cases, but they are also the largest unvaccinated group.
Actually, those that get it hard apparently die quicker, so I would say that it is more virulent. Unfortunately need years of study to determine what each variant does.
I applaud PCGS and Long Beach for protecting attendees. If that was in place for ANA, I would have gone.
@AUandAG said:
Nope, don't wear a mask ever. Been kicked out of a lot of places, but just spent my money elsewhere. I take that back, yes, on an airplane to go to a state that does not have any requirements. Boy that made a lot of sense.
Have fun boys, you do get free masks there!
bob
I do my duty for society and wear my mask when inside public areas and at work. No one likes to wear one but it is all about keeping everyone safe. At a coin show, I am happy to wear one until we are out of this and would gladly do so at Long Beach.
I do my duty for society and wear my mask when inside public areas and at work. No one likes to wear one but it is all about keeping everyone safe. At a coin show, I am happy to wear one until we are out of this and would gladly do so at Long Beach.
It's more contagious but not necessarily more virulent. It may also only appear to affect children more. A large percentage of children are represented in New cases, but they are also the largest unvaccinated group.
Actually, those that get it hard apparently die quicker, so I would say that it is more virulent. Unfortunately need years of study to determine what each variant does.
I applaud PCGS and Long Beach for protecting attendees. If that was in place for ANA, I would have gone.
Best, SH
There is one Scottish study that claimed that. There are other studies that show no difference. It remains unknown.
There is one Scottish study that claimed that. There are other studies that show no difference.
study this......................I would like to see a study which might show the correlation between chronic complaining and resistance to masks, social distancing and vaccination. I am sure it would be very telling.
everyone seems to agree on one thing, we are anxious to be able to attend Coin Shows and gather publicly. I would be over-joyed to attend a large, regional show and have something like the Baltimore Crabfest circa 2003-04 or the one in Pittsburgh a few years later at the Church Brew Works. those were classics with upwards of 20 forum members gathered together.
all it takes is a little Humility. forget self-centered, stubborn pride and fear along with mis-guided allegiance. do something for yourself and your fellow citizens. the twist is silly --- if everyone would have made that choice many, many months ago we'd be enjoying the Long Beach Show with no restrictions instead of whining about wearing a mask and getting a test.
@keets said: There is one Scottish study that claimed that. There are other studies that show no difference.
study this......................I would like to see a study which might show the correlation between chronic complaining and resistance to masks, social distancing and vaccination. I am sure it would be very telling.
everyone seems to agree on one thing, we are anxious to be able to attend Coin Shows and gather publicly. I would be over-joyed to attend a large, regional show and have something like the Baltimore Crabfest circa 2003-04 or the one in Pittsburgh a few years later at the Church Brew Works. those were classics with upwards of 20 forum members gathered together.
all it takes is a little Humility. forget self-centered, stubborn pride and fear along with mis-guided allegiance. do something for yourself and your fellow citizens. the twist is silly --- if everyone would have made that choice many, many months ago we'd be enjoying the Long Beach Show with no restrictions instead of whining about wearing a mask and getting a test.
That's a separate argument that had nothing to do with my reference to current delta variant studies. Get vaccinated, wear a mask, whatever. But the science matters and there is no reason not to attempt to be accurate. Otherwise, you are fighting the wrong battle using the wrong weapons.
Already booked tickets for this show. Can't believe some folks make the revised rules sound like running a marathon backwards with both legs tied. Some confuse an inconvenience with an intrusion on their "liberty", when said liberty has negative consequences for other people that wanted no part of it.
It's more contagious but not necessarily more virulent. It may also only appear to affect children more. A large percentage of children are represented in New cases, but they are also the largest unvaccinated group.
Actually, those that get it hard apparently die quicker, so I would say that it is more virulent. Unfortunately need years of study to determine what each variant does.
I applaud PCGS and Long Beach for protecting attendees. If that was in place for ANA, I would have gone.
Best, SH
Doc Raufus- care to weigh in as you have a front row seat.
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“Dr. Cherie Drenzek, state epidemiologist with the Georgia Department of Public Health, said that out of the 2,800 COVID patients hospitalized in Georgia as of Wednesday, so far nearly every one of them — with the exception of well-under one-half of one-percent of them -- is unvaccinated, including children (who can’t be vaccinated, yet) who have severe cases caused by the Delta variant.“
Wednesday = yesterday
Pretty clear that this is now a pandemic among the unvaccinated and unfortunately the unvaccinated are the least likely to voluntarily wear a mask or practice social distancing.
Pretty clear that this is now a pandemic among the unvaccinated and unfortunately the unvaccinated are the least likely to voluntarily wear a mask or practice social distancing.
I am a coin guy...I have been social distancing for 40 years.
Well said, Keets!
I appreciate the well thought out and even tempered responses to this thread. I realize with the demographics of this forum that there’s going to be a variety of opinions and beliefs.
I am thankful so many of you use a thoughtful and responsible approach. That gives me hope.
That won’t change my lack of desire to attend large group gatherings.
@MilesWaits said:
Well said, Keets!
I appreciate the well thought out and even tempered responses to this thread. I realize with the demographics of this forum that there’s going to be a variety of opinions and beliefs.
I am thankful so many of you use a thoughtful and responsible approach. That gives me hope.
That won’t change my lack of desire to attend large group gatherings.
“That’s why Washington eventually made the bold decision to inoculate all American troops who had never been sickened with smallpox at a time when inoculation was a crude and often deadly process. His gamble paid off. The measure staved off smallpox long enough to win a years-long fight with the British. In the process, Washington pulled off the first massive, state-funded immunization campaign in American history.”
I got both strains. Well, I got sick twice in the past two years. Wore mask. Washed hands. Took vitamins. Pestilence has been around longer than every nation and through every tribe. .... from this we cannot hide. Don't think we're going to stop a thing. We shut down coin shows for a year. New year. New rules.
@drfish said:
USA C19 deaths per million 1,963
Australia. 38
NZ. 5
Math is ready hard for some people.
But here is my problem with that.. Even with insane lockdowns, Covid is still around. Even if those countries do everything perfectly, and lock the country down, Covid will not disappear from everywhere in the world. So eventually they will have to open things back up. And when they do, covid will then hit. I think it has to be a balanced approach personally. Those that want the protection now thankfully have it (for the most part).
@drfish said:
USA C19 deaths per million 1,963
Australia. 38
NZ. 5
Math is ready hard for some people.
More people arrested in Australia rebelling against lockdowns than getting sick from virus. But this is about the coin show not the bad vibes around them.
@drfish said:
USA C19 deaths per million 1,963
Australia. 38
NZ. 5
Math is ready hard for some people.
But here is my problem with that.. Even with insane lockdowns, Covid is still around. Even if those countries do everything perfectly, and lock the country down, Covid will not disappear from everywhere in the world. So eventually they will have to open things back up. And when they do, covid will then hit. I think it has to be a balanced approach personally. Those that want the protection now thankfully have it (for the most part).
Well said, however just as with the politics there is no balance anymore. As we see from the replies in this thread for many, apparently mostly those who are vaccinated, it is their way or the highway; you cannot have a civil discussion when some people cannot be civil.
@Floridafacelifter said:
It’s too far for me but I would attend- I’m fully vaccinated (got my booster yesterday) and I wore a KN95 mask for the entire Summer FUN show- no prob
nevermind.
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Covid will be endemic. We get back to “normal” with vaccines AND post exposure mitigation. We are ok on A working towards B
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Unless every state -including those run top to bottom by R’s - is involved in a massive coverup/disinformation campaign, the last few months have conclusively proven that vaccinations are highly effective and prevent serious illness and death. Currently in Ga 99% of the hospitalized C19 cases are unvaccinated. Masks and social distancing only slow the spread of the virus giving our country time to get vaccinated.
Please research the reports/numbers from your local news sources and your states public health experts - vaccination against C19 save lives.
@MsMorrisine said:
It wouldn’t be a big deal except for 1 thing:
The delta variant affects children and it is more contagious, even to the vaccinated.
Delta is a game changer
It's more contagious but not necessarily more virulent. It may also only appear to affect children more. A large percentage of children are represented in New cases, but they are also the largest unvaccinated group.
On the CDC site as of July 21, 2021 show 338 kids under age 17 have died of covid since the beginning. CDC does not break down comorbities under age 17. Divide 338 by 50 states and that's less than 7 kids per state over 17 months, not taking into account for population variances - you can do your own 'state' math. I have. In Hawaii that amounts to 1.42 kids have died in the past 17 months. These numbers do not account for the 'D'. So it will be interesting to watch the numbers rise, if at all. I'm curious to know how the CDC or experts have determined the D to be worse for kids(?)
Again, this is a coin forum and the initial post was intended to see how that announcement would affect you attending the show. Do the precautions make you want to skip the show or do they make is safer for you to attend. The other topics on COVID can be posted and debated elsewhere.
It is mind boggling to me that some in this country refuse basic hygiene. I guess we now have unwashed masses in parts of our country and those people should be avoided like the plaque they carry.
96% of doctors are vaccinated. The Hippocratic Oath is a sworn agreement made by physicians when they become doctors. It includes a promise to share knowledge, to help the ill and not cause harm, and to never give a deadly drug or help another to use one.
Some in this country think that 96% the doctors and nurses in their country are lying to them. They do not trust science or math or charts. Millions upon million of regular people just doing their best in their jobs would have to be lying to us to make this massive conspiracy to work. Really??? Use common sense.
@Dorkis said:
I think it is about 90%. Veterinarians can be trusted.
Fact .... Or is the AMA lying as well
CHICAGO — The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated.
The national AMA survey is the first to specifically collect data on practicing physicians’ COVID-19 vaccination rates. The survey was conducted June 3–8 and showed an increase of more than 20 percent for physicians who have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19 compared to a May 2021 Medscape poll.
“Practicing physicians across the country are leading by example, with an amazing uptake of the COVID-19 vaccines,” said AMA President Susan R. Bailey, MD. “Physicians and clinicians are uniquely positioned to listen to and validate patient concerns, and one of the most powerful anecdotes a physician can offer is that they themselves have been vaccinated. You can take it from your doctor: the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. With COVID-19 vaccines readily available and approved for all people 12 years old and up, we urge you to get vaccinated—take the single most important step you can to protect yourself, your family, and end the COVID-19 pandemic.”
For months, the AMA has worked to bolster vaccine confidence, reduce vaccine hesitancy and provide physicians with the information and resources they need to answer patient questions. In October, the AMA launched a webinar series, “What Physicians Need to Know,” to ensure physicians are continuously informed about the federal review process for COVID-19 vaccine candidates. The first two webinars featured fact-based insights from the nation’s highest-ranking subject matter experts working to protect public health from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), including an overview of the FDA’s vaccine review process and an update from the CDC on COVID-19 vaccine development and distribution. More recently, in the eighth episode, the AMA joined with the de Beaumont Foundation for a webinar to help physicians respond to common vaccine misinformation among patients.
I agree, either part of the cure or part of the problem, I understand for medical reasons wearing a mask is not possible and same with vaccinations, having said that I remember in 1967 in military before going over that we all just lined up and got many vaccinations at once and no mention of "do you want to do this". Many older people remember Polio and many other things that were brought under control by vaccinations. I would not travel without being vaccinated and wearing a mask unless it is a medical issue sounds like a easy way to help slow this down.
Just my opinion but don't complain about getting things over if you part of the problem.
Al
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
It is mind boggling to me that some in this country refuse basic hygiene. I guess we now have unwashed masses in parts of our country and those people should be avoided like the plaque they carry.
96% of doctors are vaccinated. The Hippocratic Oath is a sworn agreement made by physicians when they become doctors. It includes a promise to share knowledge, to help the ill and not cause harm, and to never give a deadly drug or help another to use one.
Some in this country think that 96% the doctors and nurses in their country are lying to them. They do not trust science or math or charts. Millions upon million of regular people just doing their best in their jobs would have to be lying to us to make this massive conspiracy to work. Really??? Use common sense.
What does hygiene have to do with vaccinations?? And I guess you are not that up on the happenings around the country, just this week a group of doctors walked off the job because they were tired of treating covid patients. I guess they took their Hippocratic Oath very seriously.
@ErrorsOnCoins said:
It is mind boggling to me that some in this country refuse basic hygiene. I guess we now have unwashed masses in parts of our country and those people should be avoided like the plaque they carry.
96% of doctors are vaccinated. The Hippocratic Oath is a sworn agreement made by physicians when they become doctors. It includes a promise to share knowledge, to help the ill and not cause harm, and to never give a deadly drug or help another to use one.
Some in this country think that 96% the doctors and nurses in their country are lying to them. They do not trust science or math or charts. Millions upon million of regular people just doing their best in their jobs would have to be lying to us to make this massive conspiracy to work. Really??? Use common sense.
I think there is a very small percentage of the unvaccinated who believe it is all a hoax/conspiracy, but I think most of the unvaccinated are more like me. I am not anti-vax or am not calling it a hoax, I just have not decided to have it myself yet. I believe it is a real illness and can cause harm/death. I have been on the fence about getting the vaccine for several reasons. One, as stupid as it sounds, needles are my biggest fear. Two, I believe it mostly kills older folks. I am thankful my parents have been vaccinated. Three, I believe the hypocrisy and disinformation from the side calling for lockdowns and vaccines hurts their credibility. Our governor in Kentucky has been calling for mask mandates, lockdowns, etc, but is often photographed maskless or traveling with his kids for ball tournaments, etc. A local Dr made a facebook post pleading to get vaccinated because the morgue was full locally, bodies were piling up, etc. Then it came out the morgue indeed was full, but our morgue only held 10 and they were all from overdose deaths, not a single covid death. Masking and vaccines do indeed help, I agree, but those in charge need to realize they are setting the example, and when they stretch the truth or do not abide by their own rules, it makes people like me have some serious doubt.
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Actually, those that get it hard apparently die quicker, so I would say that it is more virulent. Unfortunately need years of study to determine what each variant does.
I applaud PCGS and Long Beach for protecting attendees. If that was in place for ANA, I would have gone.
Best, SH
I do my duty for society and wear my mask when inside public areas and at work. No one likes to wear one but it is all about keeping everyone safe. At a coin show, I am happy to wear one until we are out of this and would gladly do so at Long Beach.
Best, SH
I do my duty for society and wear my mask when inside public areas and at work. No one likes to wear one but it is all about keeping everyone safe. At a coin show, I am happy to wear one until we are out of this and would gladly do so at Long Beach.
POTD.
There is one Scottish study that claimed that. There are other studies that show no difference. It remains unknown.
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/5-things-to-know-delta-variant-covid
There is one Scottish study that claimed that. There are other studies that show no difference.
study this......................I would like to see a study which might show the correlation between chronic complaining and resistance to masks, social distancing and vaccination. I am sure it would be very telling.
everyone seems to agree on one thing, we are anxious to be able to attend Coin Shows and gather publicly. I would be over-joyed to attend a large, regional show and have something like the Baltimore Crabfest circa 2003-04 or the one in Pittsburgh a few years later at the Church Brew Works. those were classics with upwards of 20 forum members gathered together.
all it takes is a little Humility. forget self-centered, stubborn pride and fear along with mis-guided allegiance. do something for yourself and your fellow citizens. the twist is silly --- if everyone would have made that choice many, many months ago we'd be enjoying the Long Beach Show with no restrictions instead of whining about wearing a mask and getting a test.
That's a separate argument that had nothing to do with my reference to current delta variant studies. Get vaccinated, wear a mask, whatever. But the science matters and there is no reason not to attempt to be accurate. Otherwise, you are fighting the wrong battle using the wrong weapons.
Already booked tickets for this show. Can't believe some folks make the revised rules sound like running a marathon backwards with both legs tied. Some confuse an inconvenience with an intrusion on their "liberty", when said liberty has negative consequences for other people that wanted no part of it.
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It’s too far for me but I would attend- I’m fully vaccinated (got my booster yesterday) and I wore a KN95 mask for the entire Summer FUN show- no prob
Doc Raufus- care to weigh in as you have a front row seat.
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Wonder if the show will sell live Pokemon too?
Has nothing to do with the topic but hey, that didn't stop you. Lame.
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Reading this thread makes me even more confident that we won’t be rid of this virus for a long long time.
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I'll wear a mask but I'll be damned if they make me wear pants and shoes!
peacockcoins
I congratulate PCGS and Long Beach for protecting vendors attendees with common sense measures.
Some comments here remind us all that common sense is not all that common.
Wear a mask as pants and you will be double protected.
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Sounds like my home office less the mask.
Haven't seen a mask around here for months except folks with out-of-state license plates.
I'm more afraid of California than I am of the virus but it doesn't matter because I wouldn't be allowed in anyway.
Oh-well...Enjoy yourselves & try not to drive up the cost of saints while you're there.
My Saint Set
“Dr. Cherie Drenzek, state epidemiologist with the Georgia Department of Public Health, said that out of the 2,800 COVID patients hospitalized in Georgia as of Wednesday, so far nearly every one of them — with the exception of well-under one-half of one-percent of them -- is unvaccinated, including children (who can’t be vaccinated, yet) who have severe cases caused by the Delta variant.“
Wednesday = yesterday
Pretty clear that this is now a pandemic among the unvaccinated and unfortunately the unvaccinated are the least likely to voluntarily wear a mask or practice social distancing.
I am a coin guy...I have been social distancing for 40 years.
Well said, Keets!
I appreciate the well thought out and even tempered responses to this thread. I realize with the demographics of this forum that there’s going to be a variety of opinions and beliefs.
I am thankful so many of you use a thoughtful and responsible approach. That gives me hope.
That won’t change my lack of desire to attend large group gatherings.
Have fun with your coins, people.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
You misspelled "forever".
Not forever. We are just watching a natural selection event in progress.
Latin American Collection
This!
https://www.history.com/news/smallpox-george-washington-revolutionary-war
“That’s why Washington eventually made the bold decision to inoculate all American troops who had never been sickened with smallpox at a time when inoculation was a crude and often deadly process. His gamble paid off. The measure staved off smallpox long enough to win a years-long fight with the British. In the process, Washington pulled off the first massive, state-funded immunization campaign in American history.”
Zero Covid is wishful thinking. Look at Australia and New Zealand.
I do find it fascinating the differing view points on this issue from smart, reasonable folks.
I hope for a well attended show by both the dealers and the public.
Thankfully hardly anyone gets the flu anymore. 😂 🤔
Makes good sense. I may attend now.
Dave
Because masks work!!!
Science works.
Conspiracy theories kill.
USA C19 deaths per million 1,963
Australia. 38
NZ. 5
I got both strains. Well, I got sick twice in the past two years. Wore mask. Washed hands. Took vitamins. Pestilence has been around longer than every nation and through every tribe. .... from this we cannot hide. Don't think we're going to stop a thing. We shut down coin shows for a year. New year. New rules.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
Math is ready hard for some people.
But here is my problem with that.. Even with insane lockdowns, Covid is still around. Even if those countries do everything perfectly, and lock the country down, Covid will not disappear from everywhere in the world. So eventually they will have to open things back up. And when they do, covid will then hit. I think it has to be a balanced approach personally. Those that want the protection now thankfully have it (for the most part).
More people arrested in Australia rebelling against lockdowns than getting sick from virus. But this is about the coin show not the bad vibes around them.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
Well said, however just as with the politics there is no balance anymore. As we see from the replies in this thread for many, apparently mostly those who are vaccinated, it is their way or the highway; you cannot have a civil discussion when some people cannot be civil.
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Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
The irony of shutting down coin shows for a year is that the coin market got a lot stronger
So did the lumber market, milk market and toilet paper market.
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Shutting down coin shows for a year also caused gas, housing, and pretty much everything to spike as well, right?
Hopefully no one here is naive enough to believe anything China says
nevermind.
Covid will be endemic. We get back to “normal” with vaccines AND post exposure mitigation. We are ok on A working towards B
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Unless every state -including those run top to bottom by R’s - is involved in a massive coverup/disinformation campaign, the last few months have conclusively proven that vaccinations are highly effective and prevent serious illness and death. Currently in Ga 99% of the hospitalized C19 cases are unvaccinated. Masks and social distancing only slow the spread of the virus giving our country time to get vaccinated.
Please research the reports/numbers from your local news sources and your states public health experts - vaccination against C19 save lives.
Do we see the division yet? Divide and conquer fellas. Older than the coins we collect
On the CDC site as of July 21, 2021 show 338 kids under age 17 have died of covid since the beginning. CDC does not break down comorbities under age 17. Divide 338 by 50 states and that's less than 7 kids per state over 17 months, not taking into account for population variances - you can do your own 'state' math. I have. In Hawaii that amounts to 1.42 kids have died in the past 17 months. These numbers do not account for the 'D'. So it will be interesting to watch the numbers rise, if at all. I'm curious to know how the CDC or experts have determined the D to be worse for kids(?)
Again, this is a coin forum and the initial post was intended to see how that announcement would affect you attending the show. Do the precautions make you want to skip the show or do they make is safer for you to attend. The other topics on COVID can be posted and debated elsewhere.
It is mind boggling to me that some in this country refuse basic hygiene. I guess we now have unwashed masses in parts of our country and those people should be avoided like the plaque they carry.
96% of doctors are vaccinated. The Hippocratic Oath is a sworn agreement made by physicians when they become doctors. It includes a promise to share knowledge, to help the ill and not cause harm, and to never give a deadly drug or help another to use one.
Some in this country think that 96% the doctors and nurses in their country are lying to them. They do not trust science or math or charts. Millions upon million of regular people just doing their best in their jobs would have to be lying to us to make this massive conspiracy to work. Really??? Use common sense.
I think it is about 90%. Veterinarians can be trusted.
Fact .... Or is the AMA lying as well
CHICAGO — The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated.
The national AMA survey is the first to specifically collect data on practicing physicians’ COVID-19 vaccination rates. The survey was conducted June 3–8 and showed an increase of more than 20 percent for physicians who have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19 compared to a May 2021 Medscape poll.
“Practicing physicians across the country are leading by example, with an amazing uptake of the COVID-19 vaccines,” said AMA President Susan R. Bailey, MD. “Physicians and clinicians are uniquely positioned to listen to and validate patient concerns, and one of the most powerful anecdotes a physician can offer is that they themselves have been vaccinated. You can take it from your doctor: the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. With COVID-19 vaccines readily available and approved for all people 12 years old and up, we urge you to get vaccinated—take the single most important step you can to protect yourself, your family, and end the COVID-19 pandemic.”
For months, the AMA has worked to bolster vaccine confidence, reduce vaccine hesitancy and provide physicians with the information and resources they need to answer patient questions. In October, the AMA launched a webinar series, “What Physicians Need to Know,” to ensure physicians are continuously informed about the federal review process for COVID-19 vaccine candidates. The first two webinars featured fact-based insights from the nation’s highest-ranking subject matter experts working to protect public health from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), including an overview of the FDA’s vaccine review process and an update from the CDC on COVID-19 vaccine development and distribution. More recently, in the eighth episode, the AMA joined with the de Beaumont Foundation for a webinar to help physicians respond to common vaccine misinformation among patients.
I agree, either part of the cure or part of the problem, I understand for medical reasons wearing a mask is not possible and same with vaccinations, having said that I remember in 1967 in military before going over that we all just lined up and got many vaccinations at once and no mention of "do you want to do this". Many older people remember Polio and many other things that were brought under control by vaccinations. I would not travel without being vaccinated and wearing a mask unless it is a medical issue sounds like a easy way to help slow this down.
Just my opinion but don't complain about getting things over if you part of the problem.
Al
What does hygiene have to do with vaccinations?? And I guess you are not that up on the happenings around the country, just this week a group of doctors walked off the job because they were tired of treating covid patients. I guess they took their Hippocratic Oath very seriously.
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Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I think there is a very small percentage of the unvaccinated who believe it is all a hoax/conspiracy, but I think most of the unvaccinated are more like me. I am not anti-vax or am not calling it a hoax, I just have not decided to have it myself yet. I believe it is a real illness and can cause harm/death. I have been on the fence about getting the vaccine for several reasons. One, as stupid as it sounds, needles are my biggest fear. Two, I believe it mostly kills older folks. I am thankful my parents have been vaccinated. Three, I believe the hypocrisy and disinformation from the side calling for lockdowns and vaccines hurts their credibility. Our governor in Kentucky has been calling for mask mandates, lockdowns, etc, but is often photographed maskless or traveling with his kids for ball tournaments, etc. A local Dr made a facebook post pleading to get vaccinated because the morgue was full locally, bodies were piling up, etc. Then it came out the morgue indeed was full, but our morgue only held 10 and they were all from overdose deaths, not a single covid death. Masking and vaccines do indeed help, I agree, but those in charge need to realize they are setting the example, and when they stretch the truth or do not abide by their own rules, it makes people like me have some serious doubt.