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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not even worth 5 cents

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a way better fake than most, if it didn’t have that date many here would call it real, Environmental damage.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your name says you have one coin. May we ask how and where you obtained this only coin you have in your possession?

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    Your name says you have one coin. May we ask how and where you obtained this only coin you have in your possession?

    One coin posted 4 times.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TurtleCat said:

    @jwitten said:
    Your name says you have one coin. May we ask how and where you obtained this only coin you have in your possession?

    One coin posted 4 times.

    I know. I'm seeing multiple users have repeat posts currently... I'm wondering if there is an error on the website causing that. I was just pointing out that his username says he has one coin... and this is the only one. So where did he get it? China would be my guess.

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    I found it about 6-8 years ago in my change never saw it before so I just held onto it trying to find out more about it

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    In NY

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Was it in front of 123 W. 57th Street? Those guys at Stacks were big kidders B)

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ihave1coin said:
    I found it about 6-8 years ago in my change never saw it before so I just held onto it trying to find out more about it

    someone owes you a nickel

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    Why would they make a fake one? That’s the problem I can wrap my head around you can’t sell it to the average joe and anyone that can afford it would really check it out. Makes no sense

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have to admit, I certainly did not expect to see a 1913 Liberty nickel, real or fake, when I clicked on this thread....

    I suspect it was made as a novelty item, not intended to pass as a 7 figure coin.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ihave1coin said:
    Why would they make a fake one? That’s the problem I can wrap my head around you can’t sell it to the average joe and anyone that can afford it would really check it out. Makes no sense

    Often, copies are, in fact, sold to “the average Joe”, who can afford them (at seemingly bargain prices). And the “Joe’s” might check the coins out after they’ve bought them and then learn that their purchases really were too good to be true.

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    So someone takes the time to mint a fake coin which I’m sure take 5mins and no skill goes to the average joe ( who has to somehow know about the rarity of this coin ) and tells him this is a multi million dollar coin I’ll give it to you for $1000 not knowing anything about coins and buys it. So he can flip it for millions, yeah not buying it there’s got to be a better reason for this.

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    rip_frip_f Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    It's a shame it's got that rim nick at 4 o'clock....

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ihave1coin said:
    So someone takes the time to mint a fake coin which I’m sure take 5mins and no skill goes to the average joe ( who has to somehow know about the rarity of this coin ) and tells him this is a multi million dollar coin I’ll give it to you for $1000 not knowing anything about coins and buys it. So he can flip it for millions, yeah not buying it there’s got to be a better reason for this.

    A lot of them are sold for $20 or less as hole fillers. They are not necessarily designed to fool anyone.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ihave1coin said:
    So someone takes the time to mint a fake coin which I’m sure take 5mins and no skill goes to the average joe ( who has to somehow know about the rarity of this coin ) and tells him this is a multi million dollar coin I’ll give it to you for $1000 not knowing anything about coins and buys it. So he can flip it for millions, yeah not buying it there’s got to be a better reason for this.

    Suit yourself. I’m frequently asked about counterfeit 1913 Liberty nickels, 1804 dollars, Continental dollars and other valuable coins, by people who have bought them for bargain prices at estate sales, on eBay, at flea markets, etc.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Ihave1coin said:
    So someone takes the time to mint a fake coin which I’m sure take 5mins and no skill goes to the average joe ( who has to somehow know about the rarity of this coin ) and tells him this is a multi million dollar coin I’ll give it to you for $1000 not knowing anything about coins and buys it. So he can flip it for millions, yeah not buying it there’s got to be a better reason for this.

    Suit yourself. I’m frequently asked about counterfeit 1913 Liberty nickels, 1804 dollars, Continental dollars and other valuable coins, by people who have bought them for bargain prices at estate sales, on eBay, at flea markets, etc.

    This is true, but I don't think deception was the original intent of a lot of those. Some were East Asian souvenirs. Some were replica hole fillers. I don't think most of them were designed to fool collectors or even non-collectors.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You might be able to sell that one in, China. Just a thought.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is a fake, there could be several reasons it was made - most of which are mentioned above. And, even if you cannot accept it, one of the reasons is definitely to sell to an inexperienced person. And it often works. Cheers, RickO

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yes, it is real.

    A real fake.

    Frank

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    I just wanted to understand why would they make a fake and at least some of you gave me answers that make sense. It is much appreciated. The other ones that just spew jealousy and hate with there holier than thou attitude you can go Fxxk yourselves with a long stack of coins. ( I’m sure there’s a proper name for that but like I said I only have one not in this game)

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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just like it when someone claps back at some of the snark here.


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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    don't give the person a hard time now.

    I understand the wondering about why because you are honest trying to understand the mind f the dishonest doing something seemingly in the realm of "stupid criminal."

    hard to explain.

    here is an 1804 dollar that sold on ebay with 6 bids @ $81.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/133844500507

    but... 1804 dollars are also super rare and valuable
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1062121/which-one-of-you-guys-bought-it#latest

    I can't explain why someone would bid on that ebay auction, but there is money in selling it if you can get past ebay's anti-counterfeit hammer.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    don't give the person a hard time now.

    I understand the wondering about why because you are honest trying to understand the mind f the dishonest doing something seemingly in the realm of "stupid criminal."

    hard to explain.

    here is an 1804 dollar that sold on ebay with 6 bids @ $81.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/133844500507

    but... 1804 dollars are also super rare and valuable
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1062121/which-one-of-you-guys-bought-it#latest

    I can't explain why someone would bid on that ebay auction, but there is money in selling it if you can get past ebay's anti-counterfeit hammer.

    Someone would bid in that auction, primarily, for one of two reasons. 1) They don't know that it's a copy and they think they're getting a steal or 2) They do know (or suspect it), but figure they can sell it for a profit to someone else who doesn't know.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,012 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    HOLY COW WE'VE FOUND THE 6TH ONE!!!!!!!!!

    7th. The ATF had one in a case they were prosecuting a few years ago. I got pictures if needed :)

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, but I'm talking about real ones. That one's clearly got an altered date. Looks like a 1918 turned into 1913.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:

    @airplanenut said:

    Yeah, but I'm talking about real ones. That one's clearly got an altered date. Looks like a 1918 turned into 1913.

    If I had a genuine 1918 Liberty nickel I don't think I'd turn it into the more common 1913 Liberty nickel!

    Lol, oops…..but it would eliminate the need to alter the Indian and the bison on a normal 1918 nickel…..

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    opportunityopportunity Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭✭

    I think they're interesting. I'd pay 10 bucks if I could find one.

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ColonelJessup said:
    Was it in front of 123 W. 57th Street? Those guys at Stacks were big kidders B)

    Yeah, but I think they would have glued it to the sidewalk for more comedic effect.

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @TomB said:

    @airplanenut said:

    Yeah, but I'm talking about real ones. That one's clearly got an altered date. Looks like a 1918 turned into 1913.

    If I had a genuine 1918 Liberty nickel I don't think I'd turn it into the more common 1913 Liberty nickel!

    Lol, oops…..but it would eliminate the need to alter the Indian and the bison on a normal 1918 nickel…..

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    rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭✭

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    rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 18, 2021 5:16PM

    Just kidding it looks like real. Those blotchy spots are not fake. Now that being said It may have been cleaned of even "harshly cleaned", but its a REAL COIN alright! (unlike the replica proof). What's it worth - ask coinflation. or give it the kid down the block and make a new collector for us old guys!

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,702 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rooksmith said:
    Just kidding it looks like real. Those blotchy spots are not fake. Now that being said It may have been cleaned of even "harsly cleaned", but its a REAL COIN alright! (unlike the replica proof).

    The OP's coin? It is not an altered date. It is definitely a straight-up counterfeit. The lettering in CENTS is wrong. The digits in the date are too consistent with each other (and with the pull-away toning) for one of them to have been altered sometime between manufacture and toning/dirtying and now.

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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭✭

    @Ihave1coin said:
    The other ones that just spew jealousy and hate with there holier than thou attitude you can go Fxxk yourselves with a long stack of coins.

    Good tip. I've been using a short stack of coins.

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    MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My prison wallet only accepts stacks of high grade morgans…gotta be a little selective😃

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    CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ihave1coin said:
    you can go Fxxk yourselves with a long stack of coins.

    Rule 1: Posts must not contain inappropriate language in the form of cuss words, name-calling, sexual suggestion etc.

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    MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Poof

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    ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ihave1coin said:
    I just wanted to understand why would they make a fake and at least some of you gave me answers that make sense. It is much appreciated. The other ones that just spew jealousy and hate with there holier than thou attitude you can go Fxxk yourselves with a long stack of coins. ( I’m sure there’s a proper name for that but like I said I only have one not in this game)

    No jealousy here. Too bad yours is in such crappy condition.

    Z
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    MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Holy hell do you own that one Zoid? That is stunning!

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:

    @airplanenut said:

    Yeah, but I'm talking about real ones. That one's clearly got an altered date. Looks like a 1918 turned into 1913.

    If I had a genuine 1918 Liberty nickel I don't think I'd turn it into the more common 1913 Liberty nickel!

    OK, this thread just turned... amusing! ;)

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    ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mgarmy said:
    Holy hell do you own that one Zoid? That is stunning!

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    Yeah, I got lucky and picked it up a few weeks ago.

    Here is the reverse . . . .

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