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What is on this trade $'s face? And what is the grade?

moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 13, 2021 4:54PM in U.S. Coin Forum

What is that on her head, and what does it do to the coin value?
(Thanks for the help, everyone... I have a lot to learn)

Oh yeah, also help me grade it. :smile:

100th pint of blood donated 7/19/2022 B) . Transactions with WilliamF, Relaxn, LukeMarshal, jclovescoins, braddick, JWP, Weather11am, Fairlaneman, Dscoins, lordmarcovan, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, JimW. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that who so believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first thought is something with sulfur in it like maybe a rubber band sat on it. It would be a negative to me.

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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF30 perhaps 35.

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like some environmental degradation (tarnish and/or mild corrosion).
    It won't affect the value to a great extent.

    The coin is genuine (many are not).
    The coin's value would be commensurate with a VF-35 grade.

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:
    Looks like some environmental degradation (tarnish and/or mild corrosion).
    It won't affect the value to a great extent.

    The coin is genuine (many are not).
    The coin's value would be commensurate with a VF-35 grade.

    Thanks!
    am

    100th pint of blood donated 7/19/2022 B) . Transactions with WilliamF, Relaxn, LukeMarshal, jclovescoins, braddick, JWP, Weather11am, Fairlaneman, Dscoins, lordmarcovan, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, JimW. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that who so believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
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    OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The best way to get good at grading is practice. Here is a link to help get you started. There are also books and other sites that are good

    https://www.pcgs.com/photograde/

    Next time, try to grade it yourself and then post your best guess for confirmation. You should also check out the "Guess the grade" posts. This hobby can get old quickly if you can't grade and rely on others, so take the time and start studying

    Member of the ANA since 1982
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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems like a lot of scratches or scrapes. It’s a nice coin but may have details problems

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks like vf30-35 ; on the obv there seems to be some problem with the rim/dentils from about 12 to 1; maybe some kind of damage but hard for me to tell. agree the dark area on the obv is most likely from something sulfurous in direct contact.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Solid VF by wear but with excessive marks for the grade. A coin I would pass on unless it was cheap.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to be about a 35 grade.... and authentic. I prefer more detail on Trade dollars. Cheers, RickO

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Looks to be about a 35 grade.... and authentic. I prefer more detail on Trade dollars. Cheers, RickO

    Do you think this may have details problems?

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1.... Unless I am missing something... No... Should straight grade. Cheers, RickO

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just lot of scratches or scrapes. Thanks again Ricko grading is hard appreciate advice 🤓

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just because a coin straight grades does not mean it is something discriminating collectors will want. Discriminating collectors do not want to see a more circulation marks than are usually seen on a coin of the stated grade. Be conservative in your own personal grading standards.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    Just because a coin straight grades does not mean it is something discriminating collectors will want. Discriminating collectors do not want to see a more circulation marks than are usually seen on a coin of the stated grade. Be conservative in your own personal grading standards.

    I’d change that to: Be realistic in your grading standards, but patient and discriminating in what you buy.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2021 2:09PM

    @Oldhoopster said:
    The best way to get good at grading is practice. Here is a link to help get you started. There are also books and other sites that are good

    https://www.pcgs.com/photograde/

    Next time, try to grade it yourself and then post your best guess for confirmation. You should also check out the "Guess the grade" posts. This hobby can get old quickly if you can't grade and rely on others, so take the time and start studying

    Yah, I did try to grade it myself. In my spreadsheet, it says 'vf', with the note 'discoloration across the head'. Looked like vf30 at least for details, but maybe a demerit for the blotch.

    I have been using the ANA grading standard book... pretty good for circulated grades, but I'm not experienced yet on how to treat minor damage and bad toning.

    Thanks!

    am

    100th pint of blood donated 7/19/2022 B) . Transactions with WilliamF, Relaxn, LukeMarshal, jclovescoins, braddick, JWP, Weather11am, Fairlaneman, Dscoins, lordmarcovan, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, JimW. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that who so believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

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