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This is a one of kind ebay listing, for a one of a kind dime.

MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

More and more people have gotten this idea that whatever they see as cool, neat, odd looking, must make the coin RARE or one of a kind, there is another listing I found where the coin is error struck, extremely Rare, Lincoln Setting on a Log, I'm not kidding, Lincoln Setting on a Log :D
You have to read the description on this one, YES! I get that its obvious this person doesn't have a clue about coins. Yes! I have them a very NICE, respectful message about the actual details of the specific coin, I also include a screen shot of the coin as its listed in the Official Red Book Of US Coins, I wished them best of luck with their ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334079968953?

"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well it's rare because the mintmark is exactly where it's supposed to be, but on this coin the torch side is the front of the coin and not the back.

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking at his other listings, I think his shipping cost answers another common question many here may be asking

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  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:
    Well it's rare because the mintmark is exactly where it's supposed to be, but on this coin the torch side is the front of the coin and not the back.

    That is exactly what I told them in my message to them (Nicely)

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    Here is what I've been doing with these Lincoln cent listings, the Rare No Mint Mark ridiculous priced ones.
    I started out with what one seemed to be the most common, the 1946, then the 1940, 1943, and so on.
    Here is what I've been messaging them (including the 46 above) I've actually been getting some really great feedback, I've met a couple of old timers that I was able to actual help, at worse a few hasn't contacted me back at all, Lots have pulled there listings, several have changed the price on there listings. I'm making a dent in them!
    Message as follows________________________________________________________________________________________

    Some Con's on etsy got this Twilight Zone Dimension of "No Mint Mark, Rare" Lincoln cents started.
    It was a way of making an inner world of common coins SEEM rare, or struck in error!
    Its gotten so bad now that its spread to ebay with people looking through little stashes of old Wheat Pennies and of course finding all kinds of these make believe rare coins.
    Collectors are NOT buying these!
    These No Mink Mark Lincoln's were produced by the Philadelphia mint which on purpose omits their mint mark, there is only one year of the Lincoln cent that has the "P" mint mark and that's the 2017.
    These listings are now popping up for about any year of the Lincoln cent and they all have the Common Theme "No Mint Mark, RARE", same is true for the 1943 War Time Lincoln Cents.
    To find out what coin collectors are paying for these very common coins you have to search ebay without the phrase "No Mint Mark" that phrase puts you into a falsehood of misleading listings.
    Here is some links on ebay to show the real value of these Philly minted coins (collectors often call them Plain), here are entire rolls of 50 of them!
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/260979228513?hash=item3cc392ff61:g:Q6wAAOSwD0lUf0~b
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/264495573509?
    I've also included some screen shots from my Official Red Book Of US Coins. If you notice for say the 1946 Plain there was more of them minted than the Denver & the San Francisco combined, yet the 1946 No Mint Mark is supposed to be Rare?
    Its all made up. The first number to the right of the coin is the total minted, the other columns are value based on condition.
    I've included a recent ebay receipt for the purchase of an entire roll of 50 1946 Plain, I have no use for the coins, but I wanted a recent paid receipt showing what these coins are actually worth.
    People don't see these in change anymore and so its easy for people to think they're rare, so that makes it easy for the Con's to create this entire falsehood.
    Good Luck With Your Ebay!


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    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I politely contacted the seller of amazing no P mm cents. Spent a fair amount of time and so what was the response

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    I politely contacted the seller of amazing no P mm cents. Spent a fair amount of time and so what was the response

    Nothing yet from the one in the title post, but I just got this back from another seller of a 1945.

    I've gotten several Thank You's saying they though something wasn't right about them,
    Some has taken several back & forth message, this one guy on a 46 KNEW I was trying to cheat him out his coin, so he say, "Good Post, how much are you going to offer me for it?, this bad boy is looking for a home"
    So, I offered to go through my metal detecting wheat's and send him all my 46 No Mint Mark's for free and FREE SHIPPING!
    Then I get this, "boy you meet the nicest people on ebay, your going to send me a baggie full of 1946 Wheat's for free LOL"
    I said yep, I don't know if I'll have a baggie full, but I'm likely to have 15 or so! but I needed and address to send them to??
    (this was before I bought the roll of 46's)
    This went back and forth for well into the night, he never gave me a mailing address, but the last thing that happened was I sent him several ebay links of sellers selling full 50 coin rolls of the 46's.
    That was when is high dollar dreams went down like the Hindenburg, down in flames.
    He ask me, "How do you have this much time to write all of this?" I said, I don't but I started this so I'm commented to seeing it through!
    We parted on very good terms, he was a tuff cookie break.
    So, far everyone has caved to the facts.
    What saves time is to keep the images stored in the computer, copy & paste the message, the 46 will work for the 44 I just have to edit in 44 in the few places where its 46.
    Next thing I found that helps is to not jump around in the listing, like now I can scan the newly listed,
    44's, 46, 43's 40's and message the the sellers of today's added listing, I use my sent ebay messages to get the the copies of which ever message I need.
    I'm going to put a dent in these stupid Lincoln cent listings! That Dime was a spinoff, but I couldn't let that one go.

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • USSID17USSID17 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    Here is another I made friends with, he's the "Old Timer" @ 77 years old.
    After I messaged him he contacted me back very polite, and says ebay took his listing down after I reported him, and he had then talked with a Female Ebay representative, who told him that ebay was removing ALL coin listings that were not professionally graded, etc....
    I quickly wrote him back and said, "Sir! I do not report these listings to ebay, I only send friendly message to the sellers!" bla..bla.............. I explain to him that I think?? that he could continue to list his coins, but do be sure and NOT use and of the professional grading service Detail numbers like MS-63 or AU-58, PR-65, to only use owner grade G, F, VF, EF, UNC, etc...
    This old timer is a great guy, below is one of his last messages to me, He had listed a 55 DDO for something like a $1,000 and at best he had what some refer to as the "Poor Man's Double Die"
    So, I was able to help him out, and he was fine with my use of "Old Timer" as it played out in the conversations.

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @USSID17 said:
    How about this clipped Planchet! Only $300.00!

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/334079950802?hash=item4dc8b77fd2:g:TqYAAOSwJYVg2AoP

    Same seller, I saw that, but you forgot about that little triangle on cheek/jaw that's and error!
    I only messaged them about one of the Lincoln cents, and the "One Of A Kind Dime"

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    On a rough count I've messaged 161 sellers sense June 6th about the phony No Mint Mark Listings.
    The word is going to get out, I'm on a quest now LoL!

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    164 now! I sent some messages to those 1944 sellers.

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,792 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2021 2:36AM

    I have to keep a better eye on the parking lots for the good stuff

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    A few months back I ran across this listing for a Lincoln Cent that had this gouge in it and the seller listed it as a really cool scare mint error :D
    I politely messaged them and informed them that that wasn't a mint error, that it was just circulation abuse.
    They took the listing down.

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You are fighting the good fight here, but I am afraid (based on what I have seen), it is a losing battle. For years, when I used to frequent ebay, I saw these type of listings... tried for a while to 'help' the sellers... some were reasonable, most were not - some even nasty. The 'error of the month' among the uninformed is a perpetual cycle. Good luck and your efforts are appreciated. Cheers, RickO

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    You are fighting the good fight here, but I am afraid (based on what I have seen), it is a losing battle. For years, when I used to frequent ebay, I saw these type of listings... tried for a while to 'help' the sellers... some were reasonable, most were not - some even nasty. The 'error of the month' among the uninformed is a perpetual cycle. Good luck and your efforts are appreciated. Cheers, RickO

    Well, one thing for sure I can't keep up the battle forever on a one on one message concept.
    But, what if say a person was to take that roll of 46's I bought, work out a ebay listings title in a catchy a way to draw the ones that searching No Mint Mark listings.
    Like,
    "Two 1946 Lincoln's Falsehood No Mint Mark 1940, 1944,1943"
    Of course the listing would have to have two 1946 Lincoln Cents for say auction, at say $5.00 starting bid, plus $1.00 shipping.
    But, in the main descriptions you include the information about the made up scheme of the No Mint Mark's being the most common coins with very little real collectable value.
    Put it up for a seven day listing and let ebay automatically relist it 5 times for free!
    This way it would be like putting out an add on ebay, rather than hunting them down to make contact, let then find the information in their own search?

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarkW63.... That would work... for a little while.... then, down the road, it would start again. JMO I think between the hucksters and the uninformed (sellers and buyers), it will always be a problem. Cheers, RickO

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