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NEWPS 1694 Passau and 1650 Salzburg Talers

Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

Here are some recent auction wins that arrived recently - and I am very excited to have both in hand!

The Passau coin ticked off a number of boxes for me:

  • Big European/German coin from the 1600s
  • Original toning and peripheral color. In hand the surfaces are very clean.
  • Interesting iconography (not just a big haired ruler) - here is St. Stephen with a martyr's palm and the stones that killed him.
  • I got married in Passau (my wife is German)!

It's raw, described as "Herrliche Patina, min. Schrötlingsfehler am Rand, vorzüglich +". The planchet flaw at the edge doesn't bother me.
Auction images:

In hand:

I also have to give kudos to the Kunker Auction House. I asked for a video of the coin, which they promptly provided. Shipping from Germany was modest in cost, via FedEx, and VERY fast.

It looks great with my recent Salzburg win (which I don't think I posted here, yet) from StacksBowers. I know these are much more common, and I am still bummed that I missed out on an ex @Zohar one a few months ago. But the colorful patina on this one is outstanding! It's graded MS62.

My current "Box of 20"

Comments

  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2021 7:07AM

    @Bob13 - Both are outstanding additions! The Passau taler was on my short list to watch in the Kuenker auction. If I had not aggressively pursued 2 earlier lots, you might have had another bidder to contend with on the Passau. I agree that the planchet flaw does not detract from the piece in the least.

  • IVBIVB Posts: 255 ✭✭✭

    Very cool coins (especially Passau). Thank you for sharing.

  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2021 7:55AM

    @worldcoinguy - though I was willing to go higher on the Passau Taler, glad you focused and got something else you wanted! Care to share?

    I was also looking at a Lubeck Taler, too, but no joy on that lot.

    Hoping @EVillageProwler, @zohar and others might comment - haven't seen them in a while. Summer doldrums I guess.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Kuenker auction was on my radar due to the large number of quality bishopric lots in Bamberg, Eichstatt, Fulda, Lubeck, Mainz, Passau, and Trier. I have bid on a few Kuenker auctions in recent years without any success until this one. My budget was exhausted in a 90 second stretch on back-to-back Bamberg lots 783 and 784. Both taler-sized sede vacante medals are dated 1753 and issued after the death of the Prince-Bishop of Bamberg.

  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bob13 thanks for sharing - super nice pickup. I do keep an eye on the forum posts and when Taler TLC is shown, count me in!

    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @worldcoinguy as commented offline, these are great additions to the core collections - congrats!

    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Been busy with new job and haven’t had time to look here today until now. Sorry guys.

    Great Passau @Bob13. It looks superb for a mere VZ+. Nice Salz too.

    Nice Bambie medals too @worldcoinguy!

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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭

    Love the Passau thaler!! Get that baby slabbed!

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  • StellaStella Posts: 725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations, Bob! Both coins look great together.

    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone. I had the Passau coin on my radar for a while, glad I was able to get it, and had fun opening the package to see it in hand. I am sure everyone knows the feeling!

    @mkman123 - I will get the Passau taler slabbed - if nothing else for a nice TrueView pic.

    @worldcoinguy - great medals! Can't decide which one I like more.

    My current "Box of 20"

  • ZoharZohar Posts: 6,693 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My recent additions




    Habsburg Talers

    TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zohar - Had to learn what the heck was Eggenberg. A mint? A town? Had to do a little reading about it:
    https://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/Eggenberg_1629_thaler_Dav-3382

    Congrats!

    My current "Box of 20"

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