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Why USA has 1$ bills VS Europe 1€+2€ euro coins ?

IKUIKU Posts: 65 ✭✭✭

USA makes things their way and Europe makes things usually other way around.

  • Inches vs. Meters. (OZ vs Gram,....)
  • Voltage 110 vs. 230V.
  • 1usd$ paper money vs. 1+2€euro coins.

Does USA dislike coins ? :) Because Europe loves coins. I myself rarely use credit card and I'm +30 y.o. <3
What is the reason 1usd$ banknotes exist ?

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  • IKUIKU Posts: 65 ✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 2:51AM

    Is it that cotton farmers want to push their products in USA ?

    • Metal coins are more eco-friendlier than cotton bank notes.
  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 3:45AM

    I'm afraid the powers that be would make the 2$ coin about the same size as a tank track link.

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 8:48AM

    IMO, politics. The congressmen/women in the states who produce the unique $1 and $2 bill materials pitch a fit whenever it is brought up to eliminate the $1 and $2 Bill. These two lower denomination bills do not have the security features the $5 bill up to $100 have, so they are produced by a separate company. I have been wrong before.

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  • IKUIKU Posts: 65 ✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 4:46AM

    Hope USA moved from bank notes to coins. Coins are better.
    Here in Finland (Europe EU) we have gambling machines in every store.(Yes you read it correctly in every store <3 .)
    I think Finland is bigger than Las Vegas when all our coin machines come to question.
    These RAY coin machines all work with: 20cent,50cent,1euro and 2euro coins. <3

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Politics and tradition.... It all boils down to those two issues. The latter could be addressed with minimal effort, but the former is formidable. Cheers, RickO

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 4:50AM

    Half way between me and @ricko lies the Crane Museum of Papermaking
    .
    1770:
    Entrepreneur Stephen Crane establishes the Crane paper business and purchases the Liberty Paper Mill. One of his early customers: Paul Revere, who uses the paper to print the American Colonies’ first paper money—the inaugural thread of Crane’s presence in the fabric of American life.

    1779:
    Stephen Crane’s son, Zenas, opens a new mill location on the Housatonic River in Dalton, Massachusetts, forever ingraining Crane in the vibrant culture of the Berkshires.

    1801:
    Zenas Crane formally establishes Crane & Co.—the beginning of the Crane you know today.

    Primarily a producer of banknote paper, Crane begins printing currency for local and regional banks and, ultimately, the U.S. government. Crane stands out for its innovative printing method that deters counterfeits.
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  • AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 5:30AM

    Who wants to walk around with $20.00 worth of coins in their pocket when you can put $20.00 worth of $1.00 bills in your wallet. Isn't that why we got away from the silver dollar? Aside from that who really cares what the Euros do?
    Besides, pockets full of coins are why they invented the Credit Card. :p

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 5:51AM

    The paper lobby has more lobbyists than the copper-nickel lobby >:)

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1630Boston said:
    Half way between me and @ricko lies the Crane Museum of Papermaking
    .
    1770:
    Entrepreneur Stephen Crane establishes the Crane paper business and purchases the Liberty Paper Mill. One of his early customers: Paul Revere, who uses the paper to print the American Colonies’ first paper money—the inaugural thread of Crane’s presence in the fabric of American life.

    1779:
    Stephen Crane’s son, Zenas, opens a new mill location on the Housatonic River in Dalton, Massachusetts, forever ingraining Crane in the vibrant culture of the Berkshires.

    1801:
    Zenas Crane formally establishes Crane & Co.—the beginning of the Crane you know today.

    Primarily a producer of banknote paper, Crane begins printing currency for local and regional banks and, ultimately, the U.S. government. Crane stands out for its innovative printing method that deters counterfeits.
    Free museum tour of Crane Museum of Papermaking

    My cousin was President of the company.

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  • cagcrispcagcrisp Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No matter what form of cash you are using, you are going in the Wrong direction…

    From Federal Reserve…

    Percentage of consumers, monthly basis using cash transaction:

    2018 85.8%
    2019 82.4%
    2020 74.7%

    Percentage of consumers, monthly basis using check transactions:

    2018 50.5%
    2019 46.5%
    2020 43.7%

    Percentage of consumers, monthly basis using debit card transactions:

    2018 65.9%
    2019 66.8%
    2020 67.7%

    Percentage of consumers, monthly basis using credit card transactions:

    2018 61.0%
    2019 62.7%
    2020 62.9%

  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

  • AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    The Chinese are hot to have the Yuan take it's place.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IKU said:
    Is it that cotton farmers want to push their products in USA ?

    • Metal coins are more eco-friendlier than cotton bank notes.

    Are you sure? What is the carbon footprint of metal refining?

    References

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cagcrisp said:

    No matter what form of cash you are using, you are going in the Wrong direction…

    From Federal Reserve…

    Percentage of consumers, monthly basis using cash transaction:

    2018 85.8%
    2019 82.4%
    2020 74.7%

    Percentage of consumers, monthly basis using check transactions:

    2018 50.5%
    2019 46.5%
    2020 43.7%

    Percentage of consumers, monthly basis using debit card transactions:

    2018 65.9%
    2019 66.8%
    2020 67.7%

    Percentage of consumers, monthly basis using credit card transactions:

    2018 61.0%
    2019 62.7%
    2020 62.9%

    Agree.

    If the Europeans were really that forward looking, they'd have gone digital by now.

  • cagcrispcagcrisp Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As of December 2020...

    The Federal Reserve says they have enough $1 coins in Inventory to last nearly 22 Years.

    Current inventory is approximately $1.04 Billion of $1 coins.
    A decrease of $50 Million $1 coins is 2020...

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    US public doesn't want higher value coins. I agree with this sentiment.

    I do carry "folding money" on me at all times, more than most people. Just not a single coin since it does not buy anything.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    Especially outside the US where most currency is held. Not aware that any USD coins can be exchanged outside the US.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lots of good answers/reasons above.

    I can think of one more but I don't want to send this thread of the rails.

    Let's just say that Americans tend to be more resistant to changes being imposed upon them. ;)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    Especially outside the US where most currency is held. Not aware that any USD coins can be exchanged outside the US.

    They were using Sacs in Ecuador

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @WCC said:

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    Especially outside the US where most currency is held. Not aware that any USD coins can be exchanged outside the US.

    They were using Sacs in Ecuador

    True, it's the or one of the few exceptions.

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    Especially outside the US where most currency is held. Not aware that any USD coins can be exchanged outside the US.

    Sac dollars are accepted in places in Bolivia.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 1:50PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @WCC said:

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    Especially outside the US where most currency is held. Not aware that any USD coins can be exchanged outside the US.

    They were using Sacs in Ecuador

    Yes, but Ecuador is self-dollarized so the Sacageweas are effectively their currency, not something they exchange for. (As far as I know). ;)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @WCC said:

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    Especially outside the US where most currency is held. Not aware that any USD coins can be exchanged outside the US.

    They were using Sacs in Ecuador

    Yes, but Ecuador is self-dollarized so the Sacageweas are effectively their currency, not something they exchange for. (As far as I know). ;)

    Then how do they get them? They don't mint them.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 2:06PM

    Mass transit is another practical reason why 1€ and €2 , 1£ and 2£ coins were readily adopted in Europe/ UK back in the day. The main mode of transportation is subway and bus in many countries Coins went into vending easier.

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    Then how do they get them? They don't mint them.

    Counterfeit Sacs are being produced (but I don't know where) and can be found in circulation in Ecuador. I bought two of them (both picked from circulation) from another Forum member last year.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,859 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Because we Americans often cling to things, even when it's demonstrably not in our interest to do so.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 3:24PM

    @Sonorandesertrat said:
    @jmlanzaf said:

    Then how do they get them? They don't mint them.

    Counterfeit Sacs are being produced (but I don't know where) and can be found in circulation in Ecuador. I bought two of them (both picked from circulation) from another Forum member last year.

    Colombia.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 3:24PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @JBK said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @WCC said:

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    Especially outside the US where most currency is held. Not aware that any USD coins can be exchanged outside the US.

    They were using Sacs in Ecuador

    Yes, but Ecuador is self-dollarized so the Sacageweas are effectively their currency, not something they exchange for. (As far as I know). ;)

    Then how do they get them? They don't mint them.

    Real ones are sent down as foreign aid, fake ones are made in Colombia. B)

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Colombia

    Member: EAC, NBS, C4, CWTS, ANA

    RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'

    CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Sonorandesertrat said:

    @WCC said:

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    Especially outside the US where most currency is held. Not aware that any USD coins can be exchanged outside the US.

    Sac dollars are accepted in places in Bolivia.

    My father is from Bolivia and I visit it regularly (usually twice per year), though not since December, 2019 due to COVID.

    I have not been everywhere in the country and cannot be everywhere simultaneously but never seen or heard of Sac dollars being used. Usage of the USD has decreased noticeably to my knowledge since the Boliviano has been stable versus the USD since at least 2007, at about 7:1.

    To the extent it is accepted. it must be limited.

  • CopperWireCopperWire Posts: 492 ✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2021 2:55PM

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:

    @Sonorandesertrat said:

    @WCC said:

    @thebeav said:
    The 'greenback' has been the world's most recognizable currency for years. Leave it alone......

    Especially outside the US where most currency is held. Not aware that any USD coins can be exchanged outside the US.

    Sac dollars are accepted in places in Bolivia.

    My father is from Bolivia and I visit it regularly (usually twice per year), though not since December, 2019 due to COVID.

    I have not been everywhere in the country and cannot be everywhere simultaneously but never seen or heard of Sac dollars being used. Usage of the USD has decreased noticeably to my knowledge since the Boliviano has been stable versus the USD since at least 2007, at about 7:1.

    To the extent it is accepted. it must be limited.

    He might be thinking of Ecuador.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Sonorandesertrat said:
    @jmlanzaf said:

    Then how do they get them? They don't mint them.

    Counterfeit Sacs are being produced (but I don't know where) and can be found in circulation in Ecuador. I bought two of them (both picked from circulation) from another Forum member last year.

    But they aren't all counterfeit. Of course, there are some counterfeits. The higher the denomination, the more likely to counterfeit. That's why the UK demonetized the old pound coins and replaced them with a new design. Something like 5% of the circulating pound coins were counterfeit.

  • savitalesavitale Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In general people don't like change and this is a "problem" that doesn't need to be solved. If a government official were to go out a limb and try to make a case for ceasing dollar bill production, they would probably be politically skewered over a topic of no real significance.

  • Dug13Dug13 Posts: 303 ✭✭✭✭

    The US dollar became legal tender in Ecuador on March 13, 2000.

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