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09SVDB Is this normal details for a Genuine #4 Die set? (real coin)
MarkW63
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Coin has been owner graded as "Uncirculated" (none slabbed)
I put the marks on the reverse of the coin marking the line (maybe die crack) across the right Wheat Ear, poorly struck "V" in the VDB, maybe a to steep of angle on the cross bar of the "A"
I didn't mark anything on the obverse of the coin, both pictures are of the same coin. I can see the die chip in the upper loop of the "S" mint mark, but this one looks to have two die chips, it also has other dots just left of the mint mark, and there looks to be something going on just under the mint mark (possible RPM????)
Look closely and let me know what you really think?
Thanks!
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Genuine coin with reverse die crack and die erosion on the VDB.
The center bar of the A appears to be PMD or MD.
Good chance the obverse has been cleaned and the stuff in the mint mark might be left over polishing compound.
It could also be die pitting or chips but is not an RPM.
Thank You!
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
It appears the slant on the canter of the A is on the die.
Looks like the die crack is there too.
Edited to add higher resolution photo.
Looks authentic.... die chips in mm...Nice cent. Cheers, RickO
Is that a die chip inside the upper loop of the S mintmark or is it a defect in the original mintmark punch? I would say it's the later since this defect appears in more than one die.
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@PerryHall ... I can certainly see that as likely.... did not think of it when I was looking at the images. Cheers, RickO
Too hard to tell from images what might be going on inside the upper loop of the 's'. I can tell you all that my SVDB from the same obverse die does clearly have a single die chip in the upper loop of of the 's'.Shows up as a protrusion inside the upper loop of the 's' on the coin as struck. This characteristic, when seen on a coin struck from obverse die #4 ('s' low and far right), confirms authenticity as a genuine 1909-S V.D.B.
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Very interesting! So, I take your image is of a KNOWN Genuine 09SVDB and that line (die crack) to the right is on at lest SOME of the #4 die set coins?
"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
So, you're saying that what some have referred to as a "Die Chip" inside the mint mark is caused (could be) caused by a punch, and that that defect appears on other 09SVDB's struct from the other die sets as well?
If so, then I've learned something else new about this coin!
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"I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
Thomas Jefferson!
@MarkW63 "I take your image is of a KNOWN Genuine 09SVDB"
Yes, the image is from PCGS/Coinfacts.
It is a great resource for photos to compare coins.
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/category/half-cents/lincoln-cent-wheat-reverse/type-1-wheat-reverse-1909-1958/668
Agreed. Don't forget that each coin is its' own canvas. Drawn separately.
Pete