As much as I want to support the USPS, I can't ....... (The rant worked, package arrived today).

Lakesammman · June 20, 2021 6:34PM

Buyer sent USPS priority registered - I wanted to say, "No, don't do it!, but it wasn't my choice.

I'll be surprised if the coins show up, ever!

I mean - check out the 1st date - not even close to the mailing date. Do they recycle tracking numbers??

Items enroute to the left coast ......

coinsarefun · June 20, 2021 6:42PM

My last purchase from heritage went from Texas to Southern California ( where I live)
To Hawaii, then to Arizona, back to southern Cali, then me.
.
I can understand where you’re coming from.

keyman64 · June 20, 2021 7:00PM

I’ve never had an item lost or stolen but I also don’t buy/sell nearly as many coins as others do. Mostly due to cost of shipping and insurance, my next submission to PCGS will be done in person at Summer FUN but I also think about the security of not having to mail them one way as well.

MasonG · June 20, 2021 7:05PM

What the USPS themselves say about tracking registered mail:

"Registered Mail (domestic and international) service and Registered Mail Restricted Delivery service alone cannot be tracked through the mailstream."

Not that this is going make any difference, I'm sure.

Steven59 · June 20, 2021 7:08PM

"I must'a got lost
I must'a got lost
I must'a got lost
Somewhere down the line"

MsMorrisine · June 20, 2021 7:27PM

Registered?

It’s still early.

koynekwest · June 20, 2021 7:37PM

Let us know when you get it.

streeter · June 20, 2021 7:39PM

Around the World in 80 Days.

MasonG · June 20, 2021 7:44PM

Some people believe the "tracking" results provided for a registered mail package by the USPS but ignore that the USPS also says that registered mail can't be tracked.

Curious, no?

jmlanzaf · June 20, 2021 7:46PM

@MasonG said:
Some people believe the "tracking" results provided for a registered mail package by the USPS but ignore that the USPS also says that registered mail can't be tracked.

Curious, no?

Well, they don't get regular scans but the scans they do get should be accurate. The OP seems to be saying that the info is incorrect.

MasonG · June 20, 2021 7:50PM

@jmlanzaf said:
Well, they don't get regular scans but the scans they do get should be accurate.

I suppose, if the internal registered tracking system is compatible with what's publicly available for regular mail.

Is it?

lkenefic · June 20, 2021 7:57PM

My purchases seem to be taking 7-10 days regardless of where they're coming from. I live in MD and had a package from HI beat a package from TX... A recent purchase from DE is now on track for a week... but, at least I'm getting stuff.

stealer · June 20, 2021 8:52PM

I have always shipped / received coins first class (or at most priority) with 0 issues, 12 years going (knock on wood).

U1chicago · June 20, 2021 10:10PM

@Lakesammman USPS does recycle tracking numbers. It’s uncommon but it does happen. Early this year I sold something on eBay, printed the label, and soon after the buyer contacts me about the tracking number. I check and sure enough it showed as delivered a few months ago (even thought I had printed the label within the last hour). Once I took it to the post office, there was a new scan and it traveled normally until it was delivered to the buyer.

https://support.shippingeasy.com/hc/en-us/articles/203085799-Why-does-USPS-show-my-package-as-Delivered-if-I-just-shipped-it-#recycled-tracking-numbers--0-1

Yours is a bit unusual since there is no “delivered” on the May entry but I’m guessing it’s still a reused tracking number.

jmlanzaf · June 21, 2021 4:51AM

@MasonG said:

@jmlanzaf said:
Well, they don't get regular scans but the scans they do get should be accurate.

I suppose, if the internal registered tracking system is compatible with what's publicly available for regular mail.

Is it?

Usually. Although there was a period earlier in the year where their tracking seemed...er .. confused. It wasn't registered specific but I had one that tracking mislocated as did a friend. Eventually it corrected itself.

2dueces · June 21, 2021 5:31AM

Had a coin go from Wisconsin to Dallas, about 3 hours away from me to Seattle, SF, back to Dallas and finally here. I was thinking tracking errors, wasn’t actually shipped all over the country.

Lakesammman · June 21, 2021 6:21AM

So, if you can't track it, when do you know to go to the PO Box and pick it up??

Tried "notification" service once but turned it off - got pinged for every piece of junk mail addressed to the former PO Box renter(s).

MasonG · June 21, 2021 6:30AM

@Lakesammman said:
So, if you can't track it, when do you know to go to the PO Box and pick it up??

They put a notice in your box that you have a package to sign for.

jmlanzaf · June 21, 2021 6:56AM

Hey, look at that! I have a stalker.

Sorry, folks, I'm going to have to post more just to give my stalker something to do.

pointfivezero · June 21, 2021 6:59AM

This thread reminded me of a question I’ve meant to ask on this forum. Is there any reason to use Priority service with Registered Mail. I’ve used this method on high value submissions only to experience the same results as the OP.

Is Priority Registered an oxymoron?

Tim

ricko · June 21, 2021 7:13AM

I do not do a lot of shipping, but Registered as always worked well for me on packages of significant value. I receive more packages than I ship - by far. Although a package (or two, or three) may sometimes take a tad longer than expected, they always arrive. I just wait... I do not constantly refresh my computer when waiting on grades either. Cheers, RickO

MasonG · June 21, 2021 7:16AM

@pointfivezero said:
Is there any reason to use Priority service with Registered Mail.

Only if you're required to due to weight.

@pointfivezero said:
Is Priority Registered an oxymoron?

Yes.

MetroD · June 21, 2021 7:29AM

@Lakesammman said:
So, if you can't track it, when do you know to go to the PO Box and pick it up??

Tried "notification" service once but turned it off - got pinged for every piece of junk mail addressed to the former PO Box renter(s).

Do not know if it will 'work' for your PO situation, but this is what I do for key deliveries to my home.

1) Go to USPS Tracking as soon as I get a tracking number
2) Enter the tracking number
3) Open "Text & E-Mail Updates"
4) Make my selections

jmlanzaf · June 21, 2021 7:47AM

@pointfivezero said:
This thread reminded me of a question I’ve meant to ask on this forum. Is there any reason to use Priority service with Registered Mail. I’ve used this method on high value submissions only to experience the same results as the OP.

Is Priority Registered an oxymoron?

Tim

All registered mail goes via the same route: locked parcel bags. There are no tiers of service. So, don't pay Priority unless, as @MasonG said, you have to due to weight.

tokenpro · June 21, 2021 7:48AM

@MetroD said:

@Lakesammman said:
So, if you can't track it, when do you know to go to the PO Box and pick it up??

Tried "notification" service once but turned it off - got pinged for every piece of junk mail addressed to the former PO Box renter(s).

Do not know if it will 'work' for your PO situation, but this is what I do for key deliveries to my home.

1) Go to USPS Tracking as soon as I get a tracking number
2) Enter the tracking number
3) Open "Text & E-Mail Updates"
4) Make my selections

If you sign up for Informed Delivery you won't have to enter each tracking #. Informed Delivery tells you what tracked packages addressed to you are in the USPS system, when they are expected to arrive and when they do arrive and are available for pick up.

Although I moved across the city 20 years ago I still kept my previous long time P.O. Box since I had 25,000++ business cards & old ads out there with that address. I visit it once a week or sooner when Informed Delivery tells me that a package has arrived. Informed Delivery is a useful service.

jmlanzaf · June 21, 2021 7:49AM

@tokenpro said:

@MetroD said:

@Lakesammman said:
So, if you can't track it, when do you know to go to the PO Box and pick it up??

Tried "notification" service once but turned it off - got pinged for every piece of junk mail addressed to the former PO Box renter(s).

Do not know if it will 'work' for your PO situation, but this is what I do for key deliveries to my home.

1) Go to USPS Tracking as soon as I get a tracking number
2) Enter the tracking number
3) Open "Text & E-Mail Updates"
4) Make my selections

If you sign up for Informed Delivery you won't have to enter each tracking #. Informed Delivery tells you what tracked packages addressed to you are in the USPS system, when they are expected to arrive and when they do arrive and are available for pick up.

Although I moved across the city 20 years ago I still kept my previous long time P.O. Box since I had 25,000++ business cards & old ads out there with that address. I visit it once a week or sooner when Informed Delivery tells me that a package has arrived. Informed Delivery is a useful service.

I'm a huge fan of informed delivery. If you get a lot of packages, it is indispensible.

MetroD · June 21, 2021 9:02AM

@tokenpro said:
Although I moved across the city 20 years ago I still kept my previous long time P.O. Box since I had 25,000++ business cards & old ads out there with that address. I visit it once a week or sooner when Informed Delivery tells me that a package has arrived. Informed Delivery is a useful service.

@jmlanzaf said:
I'm a huge fan of informed delivery. If you get a lot of packages, it is indispensible.

It appears to be a very useful tool.

That said, @Lakesammman said that he had tried a "notification" service once, but that he had turned it off due to junk mail. I assume that he was referring to 'Informed Delivery', or one of its predecessors.

I do not currently use 'Informed Delivery'. Can a customer limit the notifications to packages (i.e., opt out of mailpiece notifications)?

astrorat · June 21, 2021 9:09AM

@jmlanzaf said:
Hey, look at that! I have a stalker.

Sorry, folks, I'm going to have to post more just to give my stalker something to do.

Only one?

jmlanzaf · June 21, 2021 10:04AM

@MetroD said:

@tokenpro said:
Although I moved across the city 20 years ago I still kept my previous long time P.O. Box since I had 25,000++ business cards & old ads out there with that address. I visit it once a week or sooner when Informed Delivery tells me that a package has arrived. Informed Delivery is a useful service.

@jmlanzaf said:
I'm a huge fan of informed delivery. If you get a lot of packages, it is indispensible.

It appears to be a very useful tool.

That said, @Lakesammman said that he had tried a "notification" service once, but that he had turned it off due to junk mail. I assume that he was referring to 'Informed Delivery', or one of its predecessors.

I do not currently use 'Informed Delivery'. Can a customer limit the notifications to packages (i.e., opt out of mailpiece notifications)?

Informed delivery doesn't spam. You simply get one email per day telling you what you are getting on the mail that day.

MetroD · June 21, 2021 10:23AM

@jmlanzaf said:
Informed delivery doesn't spam. You simply get one email per day telling you what you are getting on the mail that day.

Thank you for the information. I appreciate your insight.

jmlanzaf · June 21, 2021 10:25AM

@MetroD said:

@jmlanzaf said:
Informed delivery doesn't spam. You simply get one email per day telling you what you are getting on the mail that day.

Thank you for the information. I appreciate your insight.

They even send you pictures of your 1st class mail.

BuffaloIronTail · June 21, 2021 10:27AM

@MasonG said:
Some people believe the "tracking" results provided for a registered mail package by the USPS but ignore that the USPS also says that registered mail can't be tracked.

Curious, no?

No. Not at all.

It's the USPS, for cryin' out loud!

Pete

Lakesammman · June 21, 2021 6:10PM

The rant worked as expected - package arrived today!

koynekwest · June 21, 2021 6:44PM

Registered may be slow but it's absolutely secure.

BAJJERFAN · June 25, 2021 2:57PM

Up until recently I had excellent service from the USPS to and from all parts of the country. On May 21 I sent a SFRB to MS. It arrived at the Memphis distribution center on the 23rd after which it went MIA. What is the chance that it will still be delivered?

MsMorrisine · June 25, 2021 3:04PM

increase your odds:
https://www.usps.com/help/missing-mail.htm

BAJJERFAN · June 25, 2021 3:15PM

@MsMorrisine said:
increase your odds:
https://www.usps.com/help/missing-mail.htm

I had my PO look into it and still no luck. Got the same URL from them.

MsMorrisine · June 25, 2021 3:35PM

uh-oh

koynekwest · June 25, 2021 4:03PM

That time frame is not very unusual for registered package. With registered mail expediency is sacrificed for security. Security is more important than expediency to me.

MsMorrisine · June 25, 2021 4:11PM

true. if it is registered SFRB then it is only delayed a bit

BAJJERFAN · June 25, 2021 4:54PM

@MsMorrisine said:
true. if it is registered SFRB then it is only delayed a bit

It's not registered, just regular priority mail. Instead of starting a new usps [of which there are many here] thread, I just picked one to tag along on. Funny thing is that even the recipient said that the Memphis distribution center is a fustercluck.

SeattleSlammer · June 25, 2021 4:57PM

And the coin received is …………

🤔🥃

BAJJERFAN · June 25, 2021 5:06PM

@SeattleSlammer said:
And the coin received is …………

🤔🥃

If directed to me it wasn't a coin that I shipped. I recall from a few months back that people were complaining about long delays, but some also saying that the packages were eventually delivered so there's some hope.

koynekwest · June 25, 2021 5:07PM

No excuse for a non-registered to take that long then. And some distribution centers are worse than others. When I worked in the Express Mail department before I retired we always had problems in places like Atlanta. Others always did a decent job.

jmlanzaf · June 25, 2021 5:07PM

@BAJJERFAN said:

@MsMorrisine said:
true. if it is registered SFRB then it is only delayed a bit

It's not registered, just regular priority mail. Instead of starting a new usps [of which there are many here] thread, I just picked one to tag along on. Funny thing is that even the recipient said that the Memphis distribution center is a fustercluck.

I had a Mint package list in Memphis for 3 weeks. I eventually got it.

BAJJERFAN · June 25, 2021 5:27PM

@jmlanzaf said:

@BAJJERFAN said:

@MsMorrisine said:
true. if it is registered SFRB then it is only delayed a bit

It's not registered, just regular priority mail. Instead of starting a new usps [of which there are many here] thread, I just picked one to tag along on. Funny thing is that even the recipient said that the Memphis distribution center is a fustercluck.

I had a Mint package list in Memphis for 3 weeks. I eventually got it.

Mine got there May 23rd.

Fishpro · June 25, 2021 6:16PM

I live by Seattle, registered USPS to CAC takes about 8 days. From CAC to me it’s been running 16-18 days,

jmlanzaf · June 25, 2021 6:17PM

@BAJJERFAN said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@BAJJERFAN said:

@MsMorrisine said:
true. if it is registered SFRB then it is only delayed a bit

It's not registered, just regular priority mail. Instead of starting a new usps [of which there are many here] thread, I just picked one to tag along on. Funny thing is that even the recipient said that the Memphis distribution center is a fustercluck.

I had a Mint package list in Memphis for 3 weeks. I eventually got it.

Mine got there May 23rd.

I understand. The point is that long delays have become common in Memphis for some reason. I had an eBay package just passing through Memphis and it spent 2 weeks there before it moved on.

BAJJERFAN · June 25, 2021 7:15PM

You'd think that when they scan it in that it goes to a known location in the facility like trash heap A or trash bin 3 so that they have a better idea of where to look should the need ever arise.

lkenefic · June 25, 2021 8:18PM

I'm seriously thinking of driving the 2 miles to pick up my coin. Heck, I should have just driven to DE to pick it up myself!! My purchase was made the evening of Jun 15... "So close... yet so far away..."

Jun 23, 2021
5:13pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
BALTIMORE, MD 21233
Jun 19, 2021
9:40am
ARRIVE USPS FACILITY
BALTIMORE, MD 21233
Jun 19, 2021
8:39am
ARRIVE USPS FACILITY
BALTIMORE, MD 21233
Jun 19, 2021
7:19am
DEPART USPS FACILITY
HYATTSVILLE, MD 20785
Jun 19, 2021
7:11am
DEPART USPS FACILITY
HYATTSVILLE, MD 20785
Jun 19, 2021
6:15am
ARRIVE USPS FACILITY
HYATTSVILLE, MD 20785
Jun 19, 2021
5:52am
ARRIVE USPS FACILITY
HYATTSVILLE, MD 20785
Jun 19, 2021
1:47am
DEPART USPS FACILITY
TRENTON, NJ 08650
Jun 18, 2021
11:22pm
DEPART USPS FACILITY
TRENTON, NJ 08650
Jun 18, 2021
10:57pm
DEPART USPS FACILITY
TRENTON, NJ 08650
Jun 18, 2021
5:28am
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
TRENTON, NJ 08650
Jun 17, 2021
2:40pm
DEPART POST OFFICE
LEWES, DE 19958
Jun 17, 2021
1:59pm
USPS IN POSSESSION OF ITEM
LEWES, DE 19958
Jun 17, 2021
11:40am
PRE-SHIPMENT INFO SENT USPS AWAITS ITEM
LEWES, DE 19958
Jun 17, 2021
11:38am
SHIPPING LBL CREATED USPS AWAITS ITEM
LEWES, DE 19958
Jun 17, 2021
8:38am
Tracking number provided

As much as I want to support the USPS, I can't ....... (The rant worked, package arrived today).

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