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MrweaseluvMrweaseluv Posts: 227 ✭✭✭✭✭
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ok so far I have posted this on my other coin forums and the opinion is that it is badly undergraded based on the sellers and NGCs pictures. Because of this, I'm very much on edge as to weather to sent it in for regrading or not... So I will ask here as well
Please consider and give your best opinion of the grade of this coin.. I know grading accurately from pic's is no easy thing, but i think these pic's are good enough to come fairly close :smile: below are the sellers and NGCs pictures the smaller darker ones being from NGC



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https://www.cointalk.com/media/albums/the-2020-20-large-cent-set.1855/

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63+PL

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62+PL

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    scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63, looks like the reverse has more than one thumb print?

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2021 7:57PM

    @MFeld said:
    63+PL

    Maybe.

    Leaving the eagle alone, the reverse fields might be painted with a Q-tip wet with sudsy ammonia. The reverse could easily go DMPL I'm not at all impressed by the obv, and hope the PL effect is not an artifact of the frosty central device. The sudsy ammonia should not be used on the obverse. The increase in reflectivity in the fields will make the various field marks more obvious. I don't think the obv has enough PL to qualify.

    If the obv has the depth of the first picture, then PL seems more likely. 64PL is not out of reach.

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    ike126ike126 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was watching this coin so i wont spoil it but it sure does look good!

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62

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    MrweaseluvMrweaseluv Posts: 227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2021 8:12PM

    Thank you @ike126 :smile: I knew I couldn't be the only one lol... I paid "list" for the grade on the label (split between ngc and pcgs) but I do honestly think it's undergraded or I would never have paid full list lol

    You may soar with the eagles, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!.
    https://www.cointalk.com/media/albums/the-2020-20-large-cent-set.1855/

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    MrweaseluvMrweaseluv Posts: 227 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @scotty4449 said:
    63, looks like the reverse has more than one thumb print?

    While the print does appear on both pics, I believe them to be on slab as I don't think it would carry an MS grade with a fingerprint on the coin itself... but I could be wrong.. will know monday tuesday for sure lol

    You may soar with the eagles, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!.
    https://www.cointalk.com/media/albums/the-2020-20-large-cent-set.1855/

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    clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 5,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS coins can have prints.
    Looks 63 to me.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 11,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS63 - possibly PL

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mrweaseluv said:

    @scotty4449 said:
    63, looks like the reverse has more than one thumb print?

    While the print does appear on both pics, I believe them to be on slab as I don't think it would carry an MS grade with a fingerprint on the coin itself... but I could be wrong.. will know monday tuesday for sure lol

    Many coins with much higher grades than that display prints.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    MS63 - possibly PL

    My thoughts as well.

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll go MS61/2 PL need to see it in hand.



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    fathomfathom Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2021 9:24PM

    I don't see booming luster. The fields are reflective, slighty scuffy, fingerprints I would say 63.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I could definitely see a 63 grade.... Not sure how much of the 'chatter' in the fields is on the holder.....Cheers, RickO

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first thought was PL fields... 63PL

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    sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭

    62DPL

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62 PL

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    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps an oversimplistic view . . .. I know.

    But when I see that much action in the fields . . . not exactly hits or damage . . . but just contact with something . . . . I think 63.

    Drunner

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    MrweaseluvMrweaseluv Posts: 227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 5, 2021 12:10PM

    Yeah, I think she's gonna take a ride back to NGC for reconsideration.. I do think MS60 even with dpl is a low low grade for this coin :smiley:

    You may soar with the eagles, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!.
    https://www.cointalk.com/media/albums/the-2020-20-large-cent-set.1855/

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 11,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mrweaseluv said:
    Yeah, I think she's gonna take a ride back to NGC for reconsideration.. I do think MS60 even with dpl is a low low grade for this coin

    Definitely send it off....

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    scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's an unusual grade. I wonder if the luster is nearly entirely washed out?

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS60/61 tops Congrats!

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