I'm I allowed to call this coin a "HALF MONSTER"?Submission Results!

joeykoins · April 7, 2021 1:49PM

Hi guys, feast your eyes on this creature of Beauty I bought today! Mannn. I couldn't believe it when I seen it. Lol. There's so many things great about this purchase.
1. The Obvious
2. The fact that it was still available
3. The YEAR!
4. The Price
5. That it's still in fantastic condition

Half of a Monster? Need better pics

gonzer · April 7, 2021 1:51PM

I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

FredWeinberg · April 7, 2021 1:56PM

Cleaned/dipped/washed out obv.

AT rev., imo

WAYNEAS · April 7, 2021 1:57PM

The beauty is in the eye of the beholder, joeykoins.
You have a really keen eye.
Wayne

davewesen · April 7, 2021 1:57PM

yes, call it what you want

AT on reverse

joeykoins · April 7, 2021 2:02PM

Thanks guys.

trueblood · April 7, 2021 2:14PM

problem coin
unfortunately

Jimnight · April 7, 2021 4:43PM

AT ... Nice colors.

291fifth · April 7, 2021 4:45PM

One ounce of silver. A toning attempt gone bad.

ZoidMeister · April 7, 2021 4:52PM

@joeykoins said:

Thanks guys.

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Um, here is a more appropriate graphic . . . . . .

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jmlanzaf · April 7, 2021 5:04PM

I don't think it's so bad. The obverse is unfortunately dipped. I think the reverse is not MA, but it's probably "natural". I've seen Eagles do that when they are in cheap cardboard holders.

winesteven · April 7, 2021 7:23PM

Now here’s a REAL “Monster” coin (from LimitedMintage.com):
https://limitedmintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Frankenstein-Obverse-White.jpg

joeykoins · April 7, 2021 7:35PM

I appreciate all the replies guys, believe me, I really do. But, I have to disagree with all the ones that has this coin either cleaned, dipped or even altered in any way. I think this coin is the REAL DEAL. Two of my best dealer friends brought me to the attention of this toned Eagle. Knowing, I admire these type of toners. I seriously don't think they'd stir me wrong? If you can only see this coin in hand? I might even send it in? I took much better photos. See if you can see a difference than my first pics? Thanks guys.

I do see a fingerprint @7:30. On the reverse

bolivarshagnasty · April 7, 2021 7:47PM

Joey, you need to find some new Dealer friends. That is junk AT and poorly done. I had an extensive toned ASE collection before EDM started mass producing them. I know toned ASE's. Listen to what the crowd is telling you.
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joeykoins · April 7, 2021 8:15PM

ok
Is this one altered too? Pretty similar I think?

ZoidMeister · April 7, 2021 8:38PM

@joeykoins said:
ok
Is this one altered too? Pretty similar I think?

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I'll see your ASE and raise you a . . . . . . .

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airplanenut · April 7, 2021 8:40PM

@joeykoins said:
ok
Is this one altered too? Pretty similar I think?

Given than neither the colors nor patterns are the same between the two coins, I’d say no, those aren’t pretty similar.

On the new coin, AT or NT, I think the reverse colors are attractive, but between the fingerprint there and an obverse that is, nicely put, unattractive, I’m not a fan of the coin.

tradedollarnut · April 7, 2021 8:55PM

joeykoins · April 7, 2021 10:55PM

Anyone Questioning?

Question Answered

Another One of Mine

daltex · April 8, 2021 12:59AM

I have to tell you, when I saw the thread title and then the obverse of the coin, I sure thought there was something wrong with the Walker, especially with the clue about the date.

braddick · April 8, 2021 9:52AM

With the right photography, the OP's eagle would be considered quite an amazing find (IMHO).

coinhack · April 8, 2021 10:33AM

The coin definitely looks better in the second set of photos. It is a crap shoot whether it would straight grade or not.

Even if it isn't graded, there is a good market for toned Eagles. I had one that was plain ugly. I would have sold it for less than spot so I put it on eBay at auction starting at 99 cents and it sold for a fair premium. And I had some nice looking raw toned Eagles similar to yours and I sold them for double what untoned Eagles were selling for.

gradeacoinsebay · April 8, 2021 10:44AM

A nice coin! I don't agree with it being not MA and I think you have a decent shot at it straight grading. Oddly enough I think it's the obverse that if anything might prevent it from grading, not the colorful reverse. Best of luck!

joeykoins · April 8, 2021 10:59AM

@braddick said:
With the right photography, the OP's eagle would be considered quite an amazing find (IMHO).

Yes. You hit the nail on the head! If only I had the materials and expertise in photography, You all can SEE what I SEE.
Thanks

stman · April 8, 2021 11:15AM

Why ask if you don’t want to hear folks opinions. Regardless, what are we talking hunks of colored bullion? 😆

joeykoins · April 8, 2021 11:25AM

@stman said:

Why ask if you don’t want to hear folks opinions.

No, I love all your opinions. Just because I might disagree doesn't mean I don't want to hear your opinions. Could there be a possibility that they can be wrong? or No? Just my opinion too. Thanks

joeykoins · April 8, 2021 11:30AM

If one really want to check out some wild, crazy and Monstrous color Eagles, that passed the questionable color stage. Check out all the PCGS, 1995 Eagles True View photo's in the grid. Many questionable even to my standards. Lol.

stman · April 8, 2021 11:49AM

Fair enough. I know you’re having fun and that’s great.

These things tone different than regular 90% silver. Up to you but I would be training my eye to get used to how the old classics, Morgan’s etc. tone and what’s normal looking for different series. Carry on. 👍

braddick · April 8, 2021 12:43PM

@joeykoins said:
@stman said:

Why ask if you don’t want to hear folks opinions.

No, I love all your opinions. Just because I might disagree doesn't mean I don't want to hear your opinions. Could there be a possibility that they can be wrong? or No? Just my opinion too. Thanks

When a collector disagrees with an opinion stated here, it doesn't mean he didn't completely consider that opposing opinion.
Certainly, no one here expects anyone to substitute their own judgment for yours?

david3142 · April 8, 2021 1:09PM

I think the reverse looks very pretty and NT but the obverse is a major distraction. It looks neither natural nor attractive. I have no idea if it would straight grade but I don’t think it would matter much for the value. The coin would sell for a premium raw but unless the obverse can be conserved back to blast white I don’t see much more than $100.

joeykoins · April 8, 2021 1:18PM

For what it's worth

The Fingerprints were removed with acetone but other issue, scratches. Other than that. Pretty clear of any real obvious hits. Still considering to send in. Regardless of maybe receiving a "Scratches" designation.

david3142 · April 8, 2021 1:30PM

Sending in a coin you expect to get a details grade is only worthwhile if the authenticity needs to be verified. Otherwise, you are just lighting $40 on fire.

joeykoins · April 8, 2021 2:10PM

@david3142 said:
Sending in a coin you expect to get a details grade is only worthwhile if the authenticity needs to be verified.

Correct, this is my hope and worse case scenario outcome.

ike126 · April 8, 2021 2:10PM

A lot of people seem to forget that ASE'S arent regular 90% silver coins there 99% so they can get a little crazy just saying....

joeykoins · April 8, 2021 2:26PM

@ike126 said:
A lot of people seem to forget that ASE'S arent regular 90% silver coins there 99% so they can get a little crazy just saying....

Yes, good point dude. Lol. Silver Eagles are probably the only USA coin that contains the closest to pure silver? So, your point, the more silver, the more chance to tone crazy. Thanks buddy.

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DelawareDoons · April 8, 2021 8:29PM

It is naturally toned. I will back that up with money. PM me if you want to sell it. I am sure it would not bag for questionable color. Great find.

Many of the users here have never seen originally toned silver eagles. They're still a relatively new phenomenon. The only bad thing about this one is the good color is on the reverse.

joeykoins · April 8, 2021 8:35PM

@DelawareDoons said:
It is naturally toned. I will back that up with money.

Wow, thank you for seeing what I see! Even though, the coin is not in your actual hand. Lol. Thanks for the offer but you know my answer. You just REALLY boosted my confidence now.
Sorry guys,
if I were leaning on your sides, just a tad. All your suggestions would have boosted my confidence in your direction just as DelawareDoons had boosted mine.

joeykoins · May 18, 2021 2:46PM

It Made It!

Along with my 1991

Low grade, but I don't care.

yspsales · May 18, 2021 3:12PM

Dude!

joeykoins · May 18, 2021 3:28PM

Here is the reason, I'm guessing, for the low ms 64 grade?

scotty4449 · May 18, 2021 3:43PM

Nice! Looks like your buddies steered you right.

joeykoins · May 18, 2021 4:14PM

Yes, it made the cut.
9 believed it wouldn't make it.
Thank You, PCGS.

DelawareDoons · May 18, 2021 4:31PM

@joeykoins said:
Yes, it made the cut.
9 believed it wouldn't make it.
Thank You, PCGS.

Told you it was fine.

Grade is only mildly relevant. It's in a PCGS holder. It's worth good money.

jmlanzaf · May 18, 2021 6:47PM

In honor of that coin, I'm going to set $40 on fire.