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JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 16, 2021 10:37AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Netflix

"Made You Look"

80 million dollar art scandal.

There are some juicy parallels

Highly recommend

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 16, 2021 11:06AM

    ...the title of that one is a perfect set up for an endless search, in this exact circumstance, if it didn’t exist ;)

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    Netflix

    "Made You Look"

    80 million dollar art scandal.

    There are some juicy parallels

    Highly recommend

    m

    Yeah ... that was a great documentary.

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  • HasBeenHasBeen Posts: 45 ✭✭

    I watched it. Guess I always figured it was a very “sketchy” field, but this really made me think...

  • OliverDePlaiseOliverDePlaise Posts: 102 ✭✭✭

    Made me appreciate coins to a new perspective.
    Enough history to authenticate.

    I watched it, too. Splish splash. :D

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting! Usually when a film has a Dylan song in the soundtrack it goes up a notch or three in my rating system, but this one's got his harmonica- LOL. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,796 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool stuff. But not quite as cool as the ban hammer hitting "Oliver" here. WTH?

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ElmerFusterpuck said:
    Cool stuff. But not quite as cool as the ban hammer hitting "Oliver" here. WTH?

    Alt?

    BTW I'm going to watch it again

    m

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did someone say "Hammer Time"?

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I watched it a couple nights ago.
    Documentaries like this seem to have a bad guy singled out from the get-go: Ann Freedman.
    It was interesting--especially since my dad's paintings never reached these highs :(

    Incidentally, the cute journalist they interviewed, Maria Konnikova, is not only a Harvard and Columbia educated doctor of Psychology and award-winning author. She's also a semi-professional poker player. :o

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why is a chunk of the earth missing on the Omega?

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    Did someone say "Hammer Time"?

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman

    I watched this last night based on your recommendation. And it really is an eye opener on several fronts. It is not just about issues associated with authenticity, evaluations, and how art is promoted... But it is also about wealth in general and what the rich collect and why. And it seems that there is much to be learned.

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  • PhilLynottPhilLynott Posts: 898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ms70 said:
    Why is a chunk of the earth missing on the Omega?

    That is a great question and it's really bugging me now so I'm doing some research. There has to be a reason, here is the caseback where it's the same. I'll get back if I can figure this out

  • PhilLynottPhilLynott Posts: 898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Okay that didn't take long. It represents the Apollo 11 mission patch:

  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Last Vermeer is a great film just released.

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very much along the same lines is the 2018 HBO documentary "The Price of Everything". Follows contemporary collectors of high end art and the reality of multi-million dollar works, with commentary by leading artists, collectors, and auctioneers. It's fascinating and a little brutal. A good watch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mbqcY9g5CM&ab_channel=MadmanFilms

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2021 8:18AM

    Featured heavily in the above movie and trailer is Jeff Koons' 1986 sculpture "Rabbit".

    It was an edition of 3.

    And when one sold at auction in May of 2019, it became the most expensive work of art ever sold by a living artist.

    The price?

    wait for it

    wait for it

    $91.1 million.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss I'm in on "The Price of Everything"

    Thanks!

    m

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  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The source of the counterfeiting was exactly what I expected. I found it disturbing but not surprising to see the counterfeiting studio at the end of the documentary.

    The use of provenance or lack of provenance in the movie was very interesting as well.

    Abstract art has never really been my thing but the documentary was very good.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2021 11:03PM

    @hchcoin said:
    The source of the counterfeiting was exactly what I expected. I found it disturbing but not surprising to see the counterfeiting studio at the end of the documentary.

    The use of provenance or lack of provenance in the movie was very interesting as well.

    Abstract art has never really been my thing but the documentary was very good.

    I was fascinated that some of the fake art was added to the catalogue raisonné's of Pollack, Motherwell or Rothko. Can't remember which and it's why I want to watch again. Blew my mind

    I'm a huge mid century guy ( my house in LA was built in 1952 and is period correct). so I'm all over this period. One of my favorites. One could have bought some originals of these masters in the 80's for pennies on the dollars. Now they are out of reach for me.

    Looking for an Alexander home in Palm Springs. He's one of my favorite mid century architects. Slim Aaron's is my go to photographer.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PhilLynott said:
    Okay that didn't take long. It represents the Apollo 11 mission patch:

    Thanks for figuring that out! They should've make it a "full earth".

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just watched "The Price of Everything". The Ganz family with a house full of Picasso's was a trip. Some in it for the art, others for vanity. Thanks for the heads up. Will try and catch the "Made You Look" film in the future.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2021 9:58PM

    @weiss The Price of Everything was amazing as well. We loved it. Hearing from living artists was magic. The galleries, the collectors, the auction, the dealers oh my.

    Some of the analogies and anecdotes made me dizzy. WTF

    My wife wants a flippin Koon Rabbit.... thank God Amazon doesn't carry them

    Stefan Eldis. What a story. I could listen to him speak all night. May he RIP. We can't wait to get to get back to ChiTown to see the exhibit. My wife is from there so we have a built in excuse to go.

    m

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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I haven't (yet) seen any of these documentaries/films, but FWIW I did enjoy reading The $12 Million Stuffed Shark: The Curious Economics of Contemporary Art a few years ago.

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like that Omega, nice.

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I collect Omegas and that is a nice one. I prefer the racing variants to the moon but still that is very nice

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have not seen the referenced films/documentaries.... will watch for them.... rarely have time for TV. However, I can add an Omega to the 'watch' thread... A Seamaster...have had it for years and years... Cheers, RickO

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I should watch I Made.. again, but when I first watched it I was amazed at the huge difference between the price the gallery paid and the ultimate sales price. This appears to have happened over a period of years. I don't recall (maybe I missed it) anyone discussing the obvious red flag: why would the seller sell so cheap rather than consign to an auction house? Either the gallery was knowingly participating in some sort of "hide the money" scheme, knowingly ripping off the seller, or knowingly participating in a fraud. No way could they just be foolish - a lesson for us all, if it's too good to be true, it ain't. .

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,342 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the movie tips, 4 shows added to my list now to watch someday.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Haven't seen the show and don't have a netflix but thought this collectors watch is cool. RGDS!

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I have not seen the referenced films/documentaries.... will watch for them.... rarely have time for TV. However, I can add an Omega to the 'watch' thread... A Seamaster...have had it for years and years... Cheers, RickO

    I purchased a fake when I was in Shanghai probably 20 years ago (seems like just yesterday, getting old) anyway sucker still works, has that fancy self winding kinetic stuff. Only difference I can see is they misspelled Seamaster. lol RGDS!

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude .... Yep, there were/are a lot of fakes around. The first time I took it in for a cleaning, the one store person told the other "Make sure that is authentic"..... He said "Yes, it is, already checked." Surprised me... At the time I had no idea about the fakes. Cheers, RickO

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