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Jimnight
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I would try soaking it in acetone first.
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Good chance the surfaces are etched under the toning, you would just have a different problem.
Leave it alone.
It looks more like embedded dirt than toning. Trying an acetone soak certainly can't hurt any.
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acetone on slab wrecks slab ( makes it cloudy and can't see anymore)
you would have to remove it from slab, but I would try a mineral oil soak for a couple weeks before the acetone - with cotton tipped wood swab rolling on surface to see what is removed.
Crack it... 100% Acetone bath - several changes of liquid over a day or two. Might require a cotton tip roll over (no rubbing) a few times as well....Cheers, RickO
Coin dip would not help that coin.
Probably not. Acetone neither.
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If you do it, please let us know if it was a good or bad move and post a pick of the results.
I hope the acetone works but in my experience that blackened silver might not be a layer of debris. Good luck. Peace Roy
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No. It is what it is. Leave it alone. If you dip is, the dark areas will come out an ugly etched grey.
Not much. If any.
Thank you for sharing that with us. You saved me from attempting to soak the coin in acetone while the coin was still inside the slab.
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A 21 in MS-63 and you cracked it?!?!?
I have a funny feeling the coin isn't the only one taking a bath.
I know ... but the reverse is really bad and I wouldn't stick anyone with this coin.
I actually feel better knowing it's cracked out and I can work with it ... Win, Lose, or draw.
I would have done the same thing. Really, what is there to lose?
Lance.
I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy this coin with that reverse. Why anyone would want to pay to get that coin slabbed without also paying for the conservation service is beyond me.
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Great move... I look forward to seeing the results of your efforts. Be sure to document (for those of us interested in these processes) what you do. Cheers, RickO
I would have let PCGS do the job. A $50 price tag plus shipping for conservation plus regrade at least. Or you could have claimed the coin was unsaleable in the holder and they may be willing to do it gratis. Too bad it costs so much for the experts to dip coins.....
I had a 1921 Peace dollar that came out as an MS64 after a long dip which it badly needed.
GO FOR IT😉
Please, pics after the dip. Thanks!
Please post pics of the after!!
Assuming PCGS agreed to the restoration (a big if) and that the coin didn't change grade afterwards, what would be the bottom line cost? Including S/I both ways?
There is no chance whatsoever that PCGS would restore the coin for free. Those days are long gone.
Lance.
I have a bad feeling that this isn't going to end well if that is toning rather than dirt as someone opined, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. The good news is that if it comes out well, you will likely do very well financially. I'm sure that particular look cost the coin at least a couple of points in the grading room as it borders on the environmental damage look.
Looking forward to the after pics.
I am eager to see the results as well. It looks like that coin has a lot of potential under that crud.
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Definite improvement IMO. Are you going to get it re-slabbed? If so, let us know how you do.
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Wow, nice job
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Wow, amazing results. Good for you and looks like a bump in grade is warranted.
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WOW ... Thank you.
Nice job, looks much better.
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WOW ... Thank you!
I would dip it one more time and try to get the remaining yellow off of it, but it looks 100% better after than before.
The difference is like night and day.
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WOW! Send it in!!
Seems like it turned out better than most expected. Does anyone have an answer for that or were you just lucky? Having never dipped a single coin I am curious.
Make sure you did a proper rinsing......
Looks wonderful now,
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It looks much better. I would have liked to see images after the first dunk. Was the toning too splotchy or spotty at that point?
Looks really good now. I wasn't expecting these kinds of excellent results.
Oh man great job! Looks so good.
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Congratulations- great results! Based on the original image, I'd never have guessed that would be possible.
Yes ... I was very lucky ... plus hours of work from start to finish on this coin.
Excellent results IMO as well. I like the bit of golden haze on it as it adds a bit of character.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Great results! I'm guessing with two 12 second dips it was diluted at least 50%?
Nice job @Jimnight
I must say that your results were most excellent, much better than I expected, 'A hearty pat on the back is well deserved'.
It must have been a 'bit nerve-racking'.
I started experimenting with low value coins, such as pre 1965 'junk silver'.
And, even if it was not sent for an upgrade, it just looks so much better, and that alone is satisfying.