Loving my newp :)

Broadstruck · February 6, 2021 5:54PM

I just snagged this Earl Schill Rare Coin Dealer from Detroit Michigan Store Card in late January fully deep mirror proof like struck on a thick silver planchet. Purchased out of the Canadian provenance of Halifax, Nova Scotia it arrived today pretty quickly and I just had a chance to image it. In silver this is only the second example I've even seen and far betters the other which was circulated and stained. Although member Zoins did manage to locate a third example. It's a vague facsimile of Augustus Saint-Gaudens $10 Indian and approximately the same diameter with a phoenix instead of eagle as his shop also sold Native American artifacts. Dated 1962-S with a mint mark as a nice design addition. Earl Schill's provenance at times appears within auction descriptions of major early silver and gold coinage. He was a contributor to the first and following editions of the Redbook and also involved with the distribution of Early Commemoratives.

Downtown1974 · February 6, 2021 5:57PM

Beautiful! That’s white whale material!
Congrats!!!

koynekwest · February 6, 2021 6:02PM

I like it!

Broadstruck · February 6, 2021 6:02PM

@Downtown1974 said:
Beautiful! That’s white whale material!
Congrats!!!

Thanks for 59 years old it looks like it was just struck and very photogenic as it only took me like a couple minutes to take all 4 shots.

johnny9434 · February 6, 2021 6:04PM

Cool beans I like

pcgscacgold · February 6, 2021 6:14PM

Very neat. Thanks for sharing.

Catbert · February 7, 2021 8:46AM

Really like this - esoteric and compelling!

cheezhed · February 7, 2021 8:49AM

Love the thunderbird.

coinbuf · February 7, 2021 8:54AM

Very neat, thanks for sharing.

DCW · February 7, 2021 9:09AM

@Broadstruck said:
I just snagged this Earl Schill Rare Coin Dealer from Detroit Michigan Store Card in late January... It's a vague facsimile of Augustus Saint-Gaudens $10 Indian

Very nice. But wouldn't this be closer in design to the Indian Cent by Longacre? It even has the "L" on the ribbon.

Broadstruck · February 7, 2021 9:11AM

@DCW said:

@Broadstruck said:
I just snagged this Earl Schill Rare Coin Dealer from Detroit Michigan Store Card in late January... It's a vague facsimile of Augustus Saint-Gaudens $10 Indian

Very nice. But wouldn't this be closer in design to the Indian Cent by Longacre? It even has the "L" on the ribbon.

How about that... I didn't notice the L as it didn't pop and stand out on the sellers pics.

Broadstruck · February 7, 2021 9:11AM

Here's another newp I forgot I bought in 2020 and just found it in a drawer

I have sold 3 of the 1800 dated Uncharitable Monopolizer tokens in both metal types over the years. I have always loved the obverse design, however as I do not collect conder tokens keeping one never made sense. This 2000 Conder Token Collector Copper Club, Deep Mirror Proof Like, Copper, 39mm Diameter. fills the void well.

DCW · February 7, 2021 9:14AM

Love the Uncharitable Monopolizer tokens. Such a striking design!

NumisOxide · February 7, 2021 9:17AM

Cool looking piece. I like the design.

Great pics too. What editing software do you use?

divecchia · February 7, 2021 9:22AM

Some really nice pieces that I've never seen before.

Thanks for sharing them.

Donato

Broadstruck · February 7, 2021 9:23AM

@coinJP said:
Cool looking piece. I like the design.

Great pics too. What editing software do you use?

Thanks!

All the pics are raw just rotated and cropped using Photoscape which a free download.

Zoins · February 7, 2021 9:55AM

That's a gorgeous token @Broadstruck! I love the Indian Thunderbird!

Hopefully PCGS will slab these one day!

Here's some info on the Thunderbird:

The Thunderbird is a widespread figure in Native American mythology in the United States and Canada.

Described as a supernatural being, the enormous bird was a symbol of power and strength that protected humans from evil spirits. It was called the Thunderbird because the flapping of its powerful wings sounded like thunder, and lightning would shoot out of its eyes. The Thunderbirds brought rain and storms, which could be good or bad. Good – when the rain was needed or bad when the rain came with destructive strong winds, floods, and fires caused by lightning.

The bird was said to be so large, that several legends tell it picking up a whale in its talons. They were said to have bright and colorful feathers, with sharp teeth and claws. They were said to live in the clouds high above the tallest mountains.

Various tribes have different oral traditions about the magical Thunderbird, which they both highly respected and feared.

https://www.legendsofamerica.com/thunderbird-native-american/

The Thunderbird is a widespread figure in Native American mythology, particularly among Midwestern, Plains, and Northwest Coast tribes. Thunderbird is described as an enormous bird (according to many Northwestern tribes, large enough to carry a killer whale in its talons as an eagle carries a fish) who is responsible for the sound of thunder (and in some cases lightning as well.) Different Native American communities had different traditions regarding the Thunderbird. In some tribes, Thunderbirds are considered extremely sacred forces of nature, while in others, they are treated like powerful but otherwise ordinary members of the animal kingdom. In Gros Ventre tradition, it was Thunderbird (Bha'a) who gave the sacred pipe to the people. Some Plains tribes associated thunderbirds with the summer season (in Arapaho mythology, Thunderbird was the opposing force to White Owl, who represented winter.)

Thunderbirds are also used as clan animals in some Native American cultures. Tribes with Thunderbird Clans include the Kwakiutl and Ho-Chunk tribes. On the Northwest Coast, the thunderbird symbol is often used as a totem pole crest.

http://www.native-languages.org/thunderbird.htm

Zoins · February 7, 2021 10:03AM

Anyone have a photo or other information for Earl? I've been trying to have some but am having a hard time.

291fifth · February 7, 2021 10:05AM

Earl Schill's coin shop in the Penobscot Building in downtown Detroit closed on October 31, 1988. I visited his shop many times during the 1983-88 period. He had operated as a coin dealer since the late 1920's and actually had a shop in downtown Detroit since the early 1940's. He was a long time contributor to the Red Book. The medal you show was struck in Bronze, Silver and 14k gold. The silver and, especially the gold ones, were struck in very limited numbers. At one time I owned all three types. Earl Schill died in 1993.

Zoins · February 7, 2021 10:12AM

@291fifth said:
Earl Schill's coin shop in the Penobscot Building in downtown Detroit closed on October 31, 1988. I visited his shop many times during the 1983-88 period. He had operated as a coin dealer since the late 1920's and actually had a shop in downtown Detroit since the early 1940's. He was a long time contributor to the Red Book. The medal you show was struck in Bronze, Silver and 14k gold. The silver and, especially the gold ones, were struck in very limited numbers. At one time I owned all three types. Earl Schill died in 1993.

I'm glad he had these tokens struck. It's a great way to learn about our past.

Do you know who engraved and struck these?

Earl issued a few pieces and it would be great to have a type set.

Indian & Thunderbird Token
Earl Schill Bust Token
Wooden Nickel
Encased Cent Token

I'm glad these tokens can challenge the line in your signature:

All glory is fleeting.

NumisOxide · February 7, 2021 10:23AM

@Broadstruck said:

@coinJP said:
Cool looking piece. I like the design.

Great pics too. What editing software do you use?

Thanks!

All the pics are raw just rotated and cropped using Photoscape which a free download.

Ok thanks!

Swampboy · February 7, 2021 10:36AM

Awesome store card!

WTG!

291fifth · February 7, 2021 11:31AM

I don't know who struck the Early Schill tokens and medals except for one type Zoins does not mention. Early also had cent size medals struck by the Patrick Mint in the 1970's. There are probably at least two large hoards of the Patrick Mint tokens out there as it seems that Earl didn't actually give many out to customers. I at one time had one of the hoards of slightly over 600 pieces but sold them on eBay as one lot many years back. Another hoard is owned by a Detroit area Sunday Bourse dealer.

1TwoBits · February 7, 2021 11:57AM

That is a very nice token, and I love that it's come from such an out of the way location.

I often wonder how many coin dealer tokens there are out there. Someone (Broadstruck?) must have a pretty complete collection of these types of tokens. They would make for a neat publication or auction catalog one day. I wonder what the first coin dealer token issued was?

1TwoBits

TomB · February 7, 2021 12:17PM

Those two tokens are really cool and the photography outstanding. The Earl Schill piece reminds me of those late 1970s to early 1980s television ads for Earl Scheib-

"I'll paint any car, any color, for $49.95...guaranteed!"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tBovj0e7kuE

Broadstruck · February 7, 2021 12:30PM

@TomB said:
Those two tokens are really cool and the photography outstanding. The Earl Schill piece reminds me of those late 1970s to early 1980s television ads for Earl Scheib-

"I'll paint any car, any color, for $49.95...guaranteed!"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tBovj0e7kuE

Ha I had Earl Scheib put a vinyl top on a 1977 Pontic Grand Prix I drove in high school. I only paid $400 for the car and Earl was even the dirt cheapest for that

Thanks as I haven't photographed much during Covid-19 and was a bit rusty on these. I've been trying to limit having to stand in a crowded line at the post office returning coins shot via registered mail.

291fifth · February 7, 2021 1:56PM

@TomB said:
Those two tokens are really cool and the photography outstanding. The Earl Schill piece reminds me of those late 1970s to early 1980s television ads for Earl Scheib-

"I'll paint any car, any color, for $49.95...guaranteed!"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tBovj0e7kuE

I remember when those ads used to say "$29.95"1

ricko · February 7, 2021 3:22PM

@Broadstruck... Those are really nice store cards... and great pictures. Thanks for showing us... Cheers, RickO

TURBO · March 23, 2021 6:11PM

Hey! Looks like mine!

Loving my newp :)

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