Is this really a dmpl? what are the standards for dmpl?
goldrealmoney79
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I know in general dmpl is subjective amongst collectors, but I have always seen contrast and frost as being big on dmpl.
However I see a coin like this o-mint and it doesnt seem to have that black and white look.
Do dmpl's vary from mint to mint? should there be a universal standard for dmpl looks/characteristics across all mints?
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Looks DMPL to me.
Photography techniques can emphasize or de-emphasize certain attributes, depending on the desire and skill of the photographer.
For comparison, here's the TrueView of the same coin:
Both NGC and PCGS require at least 2 inches of clear reflectivity for their PL designations. Both sides.
NGC requires at least 4 inches of clear reflectivity for its DPL designation. Both sides.
PCGS requires at least 6 inches of clear reflectivity for its DMPL designation. Both sides.
That is all.
In a very large percentage of cases, it’s impossible to tell from images.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Here's a PCGS article that confirms what's written by @SeattleSlammer:
https://www.pcgs.com/news/pcgs-adds-pl-and-dmpl-designations
Also...... no cameo contrast is required for a DPL/DMPL designation — only field reflectivity.
Frost on the devices is just a bonus.
Actually, that coin you linked looks pretty nice to me, the cameo is great, especially for the date and mint mark. You can find wonderful cameo contrast and thick frost on the devices on some years and not pay a fortune, like the 82-84 cc’s and 80-s and 81-s.
Of course, everything Seattle slammer is spot on. Only mirror depth and clarity count when attributing pl and dmpl. Of course, it has to be at least 60 for pcgs. I think ngc will attribute high au’s as pl or dpl, their near-equivalent of dmpl at pcgs.
Will’sProoflikes
The requirements are 'clear'..
at the TPG's... However, judging from pictures, you will not be able to confirm the 'measurement'... Cheers, RickO
Be careful buying DMPL coins in older holders. A lot of coins that were graded DMPL 20 years ago may not grade that way today.
I have seen older, green insert NGC "soap" holdered coins which had good mirrors but negligible frost, designated DPL. to me, the DMPL designation means frosted devices and mirrored fields, but that interpretation may have been different 30 years ago for NGC.
I would also add that with these DMPL's it can be hard to show the mirrored fields and the frosted devices in the same image. most coins, like the one shown by Bryce, will "pop" with a slight tilt of the holder, showing really deep, reflective fields.