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PCGS Cert # 1080575 / Holder Premium?

CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

What is the estimated value of this early PCGS holder (Cert % 1080575)?

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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A lot more than the coin is worth outside the holder!

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    CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And also, how about the higher number 108 series slabs. Cert # 1088444?

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 22, 2021 2:25PM

    the Franklin is a white rattler, the columbian is not

    Franklin probably worth ? $300 ish?

    Lakesammman is a strong buyer

    not sure how close that estimate is - here is article on slabs

    https://coinweek.com/education/coin-grading/buy-the-holder-not-the-coin-10-slabs-to-look-for/

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The white label rattler will bring a strong premium from some buyers, certainly not all. A much smaller premium to none at all for the Columbian, commems are actually more common in older holders than other coins.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Franklin half itself has little value beyond melt. It would be interesting to see just what premium the holder itself would bring. I personally would pay no premium but I am well aware that many others would.

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    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Devewesen has nailed it. The 108 series represents the white Rattler, but as we became aware of them, it was discovered that the later serial numbers of the 108 series became the first of the regular 'green' Rattlers.

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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No premium at all to the columbian other than what any rattler would bring. The white label Franklin really depends on who you put the coin in front of. Definitely more than the coin itself.

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    panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Franklin would bring a lot more than $300 I suspect

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    KindaNewishKindaNewish Posts: 830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is interesting.

    There is a reason why our hosts stopped making gen 1 rattlers. They are so easy to counterfeit.
    The height and width of the paper label on the Franklin is not something that I've ever seen before. I'm not sure that it is a genuine white rattler.

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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a 1.0 PCGS slab. Less than 40 or so known at present.

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    planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2021 8:14AM

    @KindaNewish said:
    This is interesting.

    There is a reason why our hosts stopped making gen 1 rattlers. They are so easy to counterfeit.
    The height and width of the paper label on the Franklin is not something that I've ever seen before. I'm not sure that it is a genuine white rattler.

    I notice only one edge of the label appears to be perforated. I wonder what clues that offers about its manufacture.

    Edit: These pages from the PCGS Holder museum are helpful:


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    KindaNewishKindaNewish Posts: 830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, I guess that this was answered definitively on 3/14

    White rattler #108576 (also a PR65 Franklin) sold on GC for $3716.34.

    A small premium for the old holder.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    the Franklin is a white rattler, the columbian is not

    Franklin probably worth ? $300 ish?

    Lakesammman is a strong buyer

    not sure how close that estimate is - here is article on slabs

    https://coinweek.com/education/coin-grading/buy-the-holder-not-the-coin-10-slabs-to-look-for/

    oops I forgot a digit

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 12,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2021 5:06AM

    Lakesammman is probably the strongest buyer of these white label PCGS rattlers.

    He is as honest as they come.

    If you decide to ship the slab to him or anywhere else make sure you triple box it to keep it ultra safe!

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some cold rainy day I will pull out my slabs acquired years ago and look at them. I really do not think I have any special ones... It will be a complete surprise if I do....Thanks for the links, I have them saved. Cheers, RickO

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    orevilleoreville Posts: 12,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That Franklin half dollar looks like it has a 50-50 chance of getting a gold CAC sticker. Even if it does get one it will not dramatically increase its value.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just look at the 5 to tell which type of rattler it is.

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Curious? Did you find that Franklin in the wild? I keep dreaming/hoping that I will some day.

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