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TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

... because I am at a loss.

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "I'm sorry you're not happy with the coin. Please return it and I will refund your payment."

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The FRAVDVLENT coin in question.
    $28 & $1.11 s/h.


  • CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭✭

    "Thank you for your business. This is how they were made. Please click the link to a web site,that shows other dollars,made the same way."

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to me like there was no room for a U!

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2021 11:54AM

    @TJM965 said:
    You have a very rare coin. Please send it back to me for a refund.

    NO and NO! Why would you want to unnecessarily deal with a return given the current postal mess?

    theknowitalltroll;
  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,495 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Such a strong strike throughout that the U was made into a V!

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tell him/her to look at the pics on eBay and if it was fake then all of those listings would NOT BE ALLOWED on eBay.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would just explain that they used a V instead of a U and provide the resources he/she can use to see for themselves. After that tell them if they don't like the coin for some other reason to return it.
    My spidey senses are telling me they are trying to get a free refund or even a refund plus keeping the coin. They might be counting on a seller not wanting to deal with it since it is a low value item.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd like to see him SNAD his way out of this one.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BAJJERFAN said:
    I'd like to see him SNAD his way out of this one.

    It could happen. I had a buyer do a SNAD claim for something just as silly and tell me (through the eBay message system, no less) that he made the claim because he didn't want to pay to return the coin. When I contacted eBay, they agreed the buyer was abusing the SNAD policy but I still had to pay the cost to return the coin to me.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2021 12:23PM

    My first reply was " Seriously? Do you have a red book or the CoinFacts app ? "
    Second reply was " please return for full refund, if not happy".

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    "I'm sorry you're not happy with the coin. Please return it and I will refund your payment."

    This actually happened to me once.

    My response was almost identical to yours except I added: "The ancie Romans used "v" instead of "u" and the Mint used that script. All Peace dollars spell "trust" as "trvst"."

    The buyer apologized and thanked me and I didn't even feel the need to block him. LOL.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    My response was almost identical to yours except I added: "The ancie Romans used "v" instead of "u" and the Mint used that script. All Peace dollars spell "trust" as "trvst"."

    Depending on how the buyer had responded to me, I might have done the same. In this case, the buyer is claiming "fraud", so my personal preference would be to not dispute the charge and just put the transaction behind me as quickly as possible.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,862 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Of course you could always offer and just say, "would love to have it back, silver is shooting straight up right now".

    bob :)

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  • Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 6,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let’s assume for a second that the buyer really has no knowledge of numismatics. Why wouldn’t he do a quick google search and view images of what these look like before sending the seller a message like that? Or better yet, do the search before making the purchase.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    My response was almost identical to yours except I added: "The ancie Romans used "v" instead of "u" and the Mint used that script. All Peace dollars spell "trust" as "trvst"."

    Depending on how the buyer had responded to me, I might have done the same. In this case, the buyer is claiming "fraud", so my personal preference would be to not dispute the charge and just put the transaction behind me as quickly as possible.

    Well, the f-bomb gets thrown around pretty loosely around here also. It's as though people never make mistakes.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Well, the f-bomb gets thrown around pretty loosely around here also. It's as though people never make mistakes.

    True dat.

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I had someone SNAD me a decade ago on a 1975 proof set because they said: "This set is not original. It was clearly put together. It has 1976 coins in it."

    I bet it was a non-collecting parent/relative looking for a birth year set. :)

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Downtown1974 said:
    Let’s assume for a second that the buyer really has no knowledge of numismatics. Why wouldn’t he do a quick google search and view images of what these look like before sending the seller a message like that? Or better yet, do the search before making the purchase.

    Clearly you have not worked with the general public that much! ;)

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Thankfully , upon further research, I received a gracious apology from newer collector, realizing he got a fairly decent deal. Happy new year.

    Well that's good!

    Collector, occasional seller

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2021 2:01PM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MasonG said:
    "I'm sorry you're not happy with the coin. Please return it and I will refund your payment."

    This actually happened to me once.

    My response was almost identical to yours except I added: "The ancie Romans used "v" instead of "u" and the Mint used that script. All Peace dollars spell "trust" as "trvst"."

    The buyer apologized and thanked me and I didn't even feel the need to block him. LOL.

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MasonG said:
    "I'm sorry you're not happy with the coin. Please return it and I will refund your payment."

    This actually happened to me once.

    Yes that was mentioned to him but I said it was Latin, and all Greek to me. Left the Romans out of that one.

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Accept the return --> Refund --> Block

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @BAJJERFAN said:
    I'd like to see him SNAD his way out of this one.

    It could happen. I had a buyer do a SNAD claim for something just as silly and tell me (through the eBay message system, no less) that he made the claim because he didn't want to pay to return the coin. When I contacted eBay, they agreed the buyer was abusing the SNAD policy but I still had to pay the cost to return the coin to me.

    My comment was TIC. I know that eBay buyers can use the SNAD excuse [justified or otherwise] in order to force a return.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MasonG said:

    @BAJJERFAN said:
    I'd like to see him SNAD his way out of this one.

    It could happen. I had a buyer do a SNAD claim for something just as silly and tell me (through the eBay message system, no less) that he made the claim because he didn't want to pay to return the coin. When I contacted eBay, they agreed the buyer was abusing the SNAD policy but I still had to pay the cost to return the coin to me.

    I had someone SNAD me a decade ago on a 1975 proof set because they said: "This set is not original. It was clearly put together. It has 1976 coins in it."

    While that particular complaint is one I haven't received, a dealer friend of mine got the same complaint a few years ago.
    "Things that make you go...'hmmmm'..."

  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Thankfully , upon further research, I received a gracious apology from newer collector, realizing he got a fairly decent deal. Happy new year.

    Did the buyer do the additional research without prompting from you?

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2021 9:06PM

    @airplanenut said:
    Wasn't it @ScarsdaleCoin who ones got a negative because a three cent silver was so small?

    I got a neg once because the coin I sold didn't have as much silver in it (a world coin) as the buyer thought it would for its size.

    edited to add... I didn't make any claims about the amount of silver in the coin.

  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Who is this?"

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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The US Mint plans to correct this error on the 2021 silver dollars.

    :)

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    just remember, Joe, being a Coin Shop owner was a voluntary decision. B)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :D Over the years, I have often seen this 'issue' raised,...When I was working, I even had someone bring me a Peace Dollar to show me the 'rare error' they had and asked me what I thought it would be worth. Yep... the V issue .... I am sure it will come up again sometime this year.... Cheers, RickO

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,994 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @P0CKETCHANGE said:
    Jvst issve a refvnd if bvyer retvrns it

    dats aye mvst tew

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,198 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Thankfully , upon further research, I received a gracious apology from newer collector, realizing he got a fairly decent deal. Happy new year.

    All's well that ends.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2021 3:04PM

    The funny ones I get are from selling seashells. Some of the shells I sell are tiny. You would be surprised how many people don't realize how small 10mm is. I've had several complain the shell is tiny and why I use such big pictures. After explaining that 1 inch is 25.4 mm I go on to explain all shell sellers use metric measurements and ebay requires a large picture or they will not allow the listing. Surprisingly(knock on wood) no one has returned one yet!

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2021 1:19PM

    NOT nitpicking; trying to be constructive ...

    1.0 inch = 25.4mm

    Certain information 'sticks' after it has been beaten into you enough. :)

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Should have told him about the ones with a Y on them.

    theknowitalltroll;
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Corrected....yeah they call that a BrainFart!

    @MetroD said:
    NOT nitpicking; trying to be constructive ...

    1.0 inch = 25.4mm

    Certain information 'sticks' after it has been beaten into you enough. :)

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