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My Latest Upgrade To My “Top 100 Moderns” Registry Set

wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

I had an AU58 in the slot for years and years that I really like and I always though could regrade around MS63BN. But, I always wanted a true Red Choice/Gem example in this slot. Now, I can spend the next (25) years hunting for a superb gem 67 Red specimen! Lol.

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    drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭

    Good luck searching for a 67! The spot are a little distracting for me.

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is another dream coin of mine, I'll keep on dreaming though.

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on the upgrade :)

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “Good luck searching for a 67! The spot are a little distracting for me.”

    drei3ree... Thank you. I am just curious, if much of the spotting could be professionally conserved away, would you do it? Anyone can comment on this question as well.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2020 5:56AM

    Nice and congrats!

    Can you post your AU58 too so us armchair collectors can also enjoy the upgrading :)

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @wondercoin said:
    “Good luck searching for a 67! The spot are a little distracting for me.”

    if much of the spotting could be professionally conserved away, would you do it?

    If it could be done.... I would do it :)

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not sure what might be under the spots though?

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1630Boston said:

    @wondercoin said:
    “Good luck searching for a 67! The spot are a little distracting for me.”

    if much of the spotting could be professionally conserved away, would you do it?

    If it could be done.... I would do it :)

    I would do it as well.

    It could also be a good showcase / case study coin for the conservator.

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “Nice and congrats!
    Can you post your AU58 too so us armchair collectors can also enjoy the upgrading :)”

    Thank you Zoins. I’ll need to resubmit the coin for regrade and request a truview at that time.

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2020 6:18AM

    “It could also be a good showcase / case study coin for the conservator.”

    Zoins. Yes. It might be. I think the coin may have been graded as much as 3 points lower due to the spotting. Considering 1/2 point higher from its current grade recently sold for over $125,000.00, it might be a very interesting conservation result - one way or the other.

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    edited to add- my first reaction would be to leave the coin exactly as it is. But, it would be interesting.

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    so-called "Carbon Spots" are the bane of Copper and Bronze with little relief possible. taken as a whole with the black spots I don't see anything wrong with the coin when you consider what it is. conservation wouldn't significantly reduce the spots but would quite probably alter the surface appearance.

    I have learned to live with their existence. if I were you I would enjoy the coin as you hunt for its replacement. it has a warm glow despite the spots and that doubling will never go away!! :p

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice coin.... However, I would not conserve it without close examination first.... What lies below could leave the coin looking worse.... Of course, if close examination shows otherwise.... well - maybe. Cheers, RickO

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    RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow, what a dream coin.
    Nice pick-up.
    It is very clean for an MS63+.
    I think the coin may be extremely under graded.
    For comparison, here’s the ‘69DDO top pop graded MS66
    This may be what your coin would look like after conservation (without the huge hits on the reverse of course.)

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2020 6:41AM

    RegistryCoin... I can always Dream! Thanks!

    Wondercoin

    P.S. Mine might qualify for “full steps” as well! Lol.
    Regarding the “hits” on the pop top 66, that is why I suggested the spots on my coin might have cost the grade upwards of 3 points.

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    RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭✭

    I’m not so sure it is a dream.
    Your coin looks very clean.
    I think you have a huge opportunity here.
    Please keep us in the loop should you decide to put it in for upgrade or conservation.

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 8,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The spots would reduce my enjoyment of ownership. One of those “but for” coins.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    The spots would reduce my enjoyment of ownership. One of those “but for” coins.

    It's always better to not have spots, but I've learned to live with them on some pieces.

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    drei3reedrei3ree Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭✭

    @wondercoin said:
    “Good luck searching for a 67! The spot are a little distracting for me.”

    drei3ree... Thank you. I am just curious, if much of the spotting could be professionally conserved away, would you do it? Anyone can comment on this question as well.

    Wondercoin

    I definitely would send it in for conservation. It likely won't be perfect, but I'm pretty sure they will improve the look enough for a grade bump. GO FOR IT!!!

    I have two gold PR70's in conservation to remove spots and dark toning, just to make them look like 70's again. I'd much rather be dealing with your dilemma...

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2020 9:01PM

    I remember seeing the line through the 69s in the redbook’s price for the DDO after reading a story in Coin World about a boy who worked all summer and saved up enough to buy one

    Caught my imagination ever cents, great coin

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2020 12:09AM

    By the way, this Lincoln cent has some great karma / great story attached to it as well. Check out the story over at the Great Collections homepage.

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    RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭✭

    Here’s the story from the GreatCollections homepage:

    November 17, 2020. Irvine, Calif. – Over the past 50 years, an individual from San Francisco accumulated thousands of Lincoln Cents from change, friends and by searching rolls. He never found anything of note, and finally the day came to sell the collection. He obtained several quotes from local coin shops, and ended up selling the whole collection for a few hundred dollars, equaling about 5 cents per coin.

    Several days passed, and the coin dealer finally went through every coin, many of which were housed in paper envelopes. To his surprise, an uncirculated 1969-S Lincoln Cent turned out to be the very scarce Doubled Die variety, of which less than 100 coins are known in all grades.

    The dealer instantly called the collector who sold him the collection, and arranged to return the coin to him. Although he never told the collector the estimated value, he made him aware that the coin was very valuable, and certainly should not be sold before it could be professionally graded and authenticated.

    GreatCollections received the coin raw in the same paper envelope it had been housed in for decades, and was amazed by the freshness and quality, and confirmed it was genuine.

    Ian Russell, president of GreatCollections said, “Although there are many reproductions and even genuine coins with inconsequential machine doubling, we knew instantly the coin was the major doubled die and genuine, and arranged for the coin to be graded by PCGS. The elderly owner of the coin really hit the jackpot that after selling the coin for 5 cents, the honest dealer returned it to him without question. While the dealer is wishing to remain anonymous at this point in time, I hope one day to be able to disclose his name, since he deserves praise for how he handled the transaction.”

    PCGS, which stands for Professional Coin Grading Service, graded the coin within a few days, and assigned the grade of PCGS MS-63+ RD, ranking it as the fourth finest graded of the variety.

    A Doubled Die variety of a coin refers to a duplication of design elements on the working die used to mint coins. If the striking of the die (a hub) was slightly misaligned, the end result is the impression of two imprints on the final coin. The most prominent doubled dies can be seen with the naked eye, such as this1969-S variety.

    GreatCollections also arranged for CAC to review the coin and it passed their strict grading standards. It is the fourth highest to be approved by CAC.

    The encapsulated coin is being featured in the December 13th auction by GreatCollections and is being sold without reserve. It is expected to realize in excess of $40,000 when the bidding has finished.

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    RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭✭

    Here’s a closer look at the pictures of the ‘69DDO from the GreatCollections auction:

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    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it and think the black carbon spots give the coin character and also provides the owner with a way of identifying his coin from the vast amount of others.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @wondercoin said:
    “Good luck searching for a 67! The spot are a little distracting for me.”

    drei3ree... Thank you. I am just curious, if much of the spotting could be professionally conserved away, would you do it? Anyone can comment on this question as well.

    Wondercoin

    I’ll comment. I’m somewhat wish-washy on that issue. 😉 But unless I were to receive a double-my-cost-back guarantee that I’d be pleased with the results, I wouldn’t have the coin conserved.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “But unless I were to receive a double-my-cost-back guarantee that I’d be pleased with the results, I wouldn’t have the coin conserved.”

    So, I think you are saying, I need to go “underground” to find one of those conservationists with the “double your money back” guarantees! 😉

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2020 8:30AM

    The GC photos look really nice as the spots stand out less.

    Great story!

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