I’ve invested $1000 into each of these five categories what do you think will return the most in 21?
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I’ve invested $1000 into each of these five categories as a kind of science project to see which one will perform best in 2021, feel free to check out the video with all of the individual items I bought in each category on my LinkedIn page under: Ryanscard
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I’ve invested $1000 into each of these five categories what do you think will return the most in 21?
This is a public poll: others will see what you voted for.
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I hear from all the fellas that marriage and lawyers are the best investment hahaha!!
On a serious note you should have just purchased a 1958 Topps Jim Brown rookie or 1966 Topps Bobby Orr rookie the highest you could get PSA graded. Sorry to burst your bubble but the stuff you got will not be easy sells. Get rid of them all and buy one of the 2 cards I mentioned or even a 1955 Topps Roberto Clemente rookie.
You will lose money selling the stuff you got but it will be worth it with either of the 3 cards I mentioned long run.
AWESOME!! Good luck. I hope they all make a TON of money for you.
Retirement money in the making!! Why can't we just be honest with him that he made a mistake and at least give him some direction to correct those mistakes. Geez I am trying to help him with much better options $5000 is a lot of cash to just play around with.
Umm guys Ryan knows what he is doing. This has been a rinse repeat. Good luck Ryan!! Thinking more basketball
OK
Good luck with this! Very nice that you lay it all out for us to see.
What grade are the modern cards? If all PSA 10s, then i think those will be your winners.
Brian
I don’t get into the “investment” stuff but, with that said, it’s downright laughable that you’re being questioned/criticized, given your track record!
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Wow! 1992 is considered vintage? Good luck to you.
Cool thread, can’t wait to check back a year from now.
I am, by absolutely no means, any kind of soothsayer. But, having said that, everything that we can look back on in the past 5 or 10 years that made astronomical increases in value were stuff that no one saw coming. That's kind of the whole reason they made such a massive leap forward -- they had been absolutely ignored or had been considered valueless by the hobby for a decent period of time.
So, say, if three years ago, someone came on this board and said "I just dropped a thousand dollars on 2012 Prizm baseball," that person would have been met with dozens of people telling them how they should have put that money toward a nice vintage card and that their decision was never going to provide them with any kind of significant returns.
My point is, it's great to have opinions, even strongly held ones. That's kind of what Ryan was asking for when he started the thread. But in my experience, anyone that claims they know for sure what will and will not happen in the hobby future has a myopic view of the hobby.
Arthur
Wow stuff from 1992 is considered vintage now. Cool. Wasn’t too long ago when mid to late 70’s was modern according to the old guard lol
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Not familiar with any of these products but I hope you score big. It's nice to see someone willing to take a chance with some serious money. Good luck man!
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Thanks to you and Dan for the kind supportive comments. When I joined the forums a decade ago now I was warned by the older guys then to be wary of the coin guys that occasionally came over to our board and I’m guessing by his ID he’s one of the coin guys.
That said I’m glad to be questioned on my choices because that usually leads to a process of making better choices. At least I hope it does 😀
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tough one. might have sold you the walton rc though.
1st column prizms & barrett rcs psa 10?
modern unopened, which boxes of mosaic? reactive blues or oranges? hangars? second wave outta nowhere on retail release kinda killed momentum on mosaic. for now. personally wouldn't put much stock in any draft product.
leaning towards vintage b-ball column. do think mchale and worthy rcs could absolutely explode soon.
Thanks we will see how things progress!
Yes for basketball 1992 is widely considered vintage while for baseball it isn’t. Why the difference you then likely might ask since both products are both roughly 30 years old?
So for baseball in 1992 there was 44 years of major baseball set years before it starting consecutively with the 1948 Bowman set and then 28 years of sets after 92. If you split it into 2 halves you get 1984 as the mid point and depending on who you ask 1979-1983 is their cutoff year for the vintage/modern split.
For basketball although there were 2 pretty scarce minor issues before it in ‘48 and ‘57 most basketball folks consider the 1961 fleer set the start of major basketball sets. Even then there wasn’t another set until 1969 topps which then ran consecutively until 1981 and then took a 5 yr break before 1986 Fleer began an uninterrupted run of sets untill today. So for 1992 there’s 20 sets before and 28 sets after with the mid point being 1996.
It’s not a true science by any means but hope that helps give some insight on how the basketball collectors think about the modern vs vintage split.
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I was going to reply to a thread condemning anyone who would criticize your choices. When you post on the internet people may challenge you, despite a good track record.
I didn't really care for your categories, but did vote for "vintage sports cards" even though I don't care for basketball of any kind.
Good luck with ALL of your choices!
I think the key is that he asked for investment potential for 2021...I think the modern guys, like Towns, Barrett etc have the best chance for an increase in 2021...but long term, I would take the vintage basketball graded cards. I think the modern Prizm and such is way overproduced and in a few years, when the population reports get populated with all of the modern stuff being busted these days, people will see just how much of this stuff is out there (there could be 30k PSA 10s of just the base Doncic/Morant/Trae/Zion Prizm cards), but the modern stuff will still carry momentum into 2021
hard to predict/equate the actual number of cards produced for panini products since they don't list pack odds based off the black/superfractor. however a few gentleman that have a solid track record of properly guesstimating and who's opinion i can get behind estimate that '19 prizm base cards are roughly 140,000 copies. seems like a lot but when the popular thing to do these days is hoard a couple dozen copies, that number seems relatively low especially if the pace of new entrants to hobby keeps rising like they've been. case in point, op has 2 rj barretts. would only leave 70k collectors worldwide if each one had two. search IG and you'll see page after page of guys sitting on 10 copies of each. i, myself probably have 100 copies sitting at psa right now. however, i have no intentions of keeping a single copy.
I’m a vintage guy as I’ve collected for the better part of 40+ years. I will throw a new angle that my 15 year old son has taught me about. He’s a shoe flipper. He buys new and used shoes and resells for a profit. He does it all. He takes pictures and has a storage space in his room. He’s totally into it. He’s also taking a business class in which his uncle is the teacher. He started with $100 and his account is roughly at $700. Shoes are crazy “hot”! He also has inventory waiting to be sold. Probably 5 or 6 pairs right now. So in my opinion you may do well in 3 or 4 areas. As for picking one area, I’d go the shoes in honor of my kid. I also agree the Worthy and McHales have room to jump. Good luck! What a cool post!
In December 2019 I bought six pair of Air Jordan 11 "Bred" shoes. I made $100 profit each 5 of them them. I also kept one pair. I have never taken them out of the box!
My wife, son, and daughter are all into flipping shoes. It so neat to see my wife researching Air Jordan sneakers! She is becoming a sneaker head!
Shane
I invested $2000 in Josh Allen rookie autos before the season. I'm sure that pays off, unfortunately I'll probably never sell.
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I don’t think anyone was calling you out, by the way. And you aren’t wrong about what you said.
Times are just very crazy in the card world right now. As someone who I’m guessing is a coin guy, if you have cards - particularly graded ones (and from your three choices, you definitely know your cards and I’d bet have some) - and/or unopened product in sports from any era, look them up.
If you have stuff you thought was worthless forever, there’s a chance your ship has already come in. Consider this a call to port.
I think we’re a friendly bunch here these days so come on over!
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It should be noted, too, that we're really in a transitioning process over the past few years and the dust has yet to settle. Speaking strictly from the modern baseball side of things, it's nothing like it was in 2017, nevermind the 20 years before that. There are a lot of moving parts and we don't know what is going to stick and what isn't five years from now. It makes it rather exciting.
Arthur
I assume you mainly just collect basketball ? I may follow in your footsteps, I like the idea, but I'd do all sports. The main reason is I'd be interested to see how Burrow and Alexis Lafreniere stack up for modern compared to vintage of their sports. I don't know a ton about hockey but I really like Lafreniere's chances of appreciating especially being in NY if he ends up being the real deal. Cool post man, and good luck on your choices, I will be following along !
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the fact that it's an investment thread and is all basketball related is not only very telling but also very smart.
100% agree. I bought a Betts 2014 Topps Chrome PSA10 card just a couple years ago for $60 and was worried I might have overpaid for it. But since Mookie is one of my favorite current players, I wasn't too worried about. Now it's looking like it will be a 10+ bagger for me if I decide to sell it.
If you don't buy cards from the 1950's then you can get off my lawn!!
I think the Jordan shoes will do the least. If those are the midnight navy Air Jordan 1 that just re-released, those are the only ones I can see going up in value. You probably would have been better off getting some the OG colorways that released. Those seem to do better long term. Only really limited non OG colorways see big increases.
This video on the LinkedIn was specifically only basketball related but I do have some baseball and a little unopened football in my collection too.
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