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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,000 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    Thanks for the info @Boosibri and @Nap.

    Here's an updated list:

    • Gene Gardner
    • DL Hansen - Barry Stuppler, John Brush
    • Oliver Jung - Joe O’Connor
    • Bruce Morelan - Laura Sperber
    • Eric P. Newman - Burdette Johnson
    • Brent Pogue - Richard Burdick
    • Bob Simpson - Laura Sperber
    • Tyrant

    I might be mistaken, but think Bill Nagle was heavily involved in acquisitions by and for Gene Gardner.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 11, 2020 8:02AM

    @MFeld said:

    @Zoins said:
    Thanks for the info @Boosibri and @Nap.

    Here's an updated list:

    • Gene Gardner
    • DL Hansen - Barry Stuppler, John Brush
    • Oliver Jung - Joe O’Connor
    • Bruce Morelan - Laura Sperber
    • Eric P. Newman - Burdette Johnson
    • Brent Pogue - Richard Burdick
    • Bob Simpson - Laura Sperber
    • Tyrant

    I might be mistaken, but think Bill Nagle was heavily involved in acquisitions by and for Gene Gardner.

    Thanks Mark!

    Good to give credit where credit is due and recognized he people who helped build these great collections.

    1. Gene Gardner - Bill Nagle
    2. DL Hansen - Barry Stuppler, John Brush
    3. Oliver Jung - Joe O’Connor
    4. Bruce Morelan - Laura Sperber
    5. Eric P. Newman - Burdette Johnson
    6. Brent Pogue - Richard Burdick
    7. Bob Simpson - Laura Sperber
    8. Tyrant - Ira Goldberg
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    John Dannreuther is the Tyrant’s primary dealer for US.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 11, 2020 8:02AM

    @MrEureka said:
    John Dannreuther is the Tyrant’s primary dealer for US.

    Nice. Thanks Andy!

    1. Gene Gardner - Bill Nagle
    2. DL Hansen - John Brush, formerly Barry Stuppler
    3. Oliver Jung - Joe O’Connor
    4. Bruce Morelan - Laura Sperber
    5. Eric P. Newman - Burdette Johnson
    6. Brent Pogue - Richard Burdick
    7. Bob Simpson - Laura Sperber
    8. Tyrant - John Dannreuther (US), Ira Goldberg (ancients)
  • NicNic Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pogue Collection- Mack often used David Akers.
    Gardner- Bill Nagle for auctions. Bought from many dealers on his own.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 11, 2020 8:36PM

    Thanks @Nic! I've added this and some additional information I received from @JBatDavidLawrence!

    1. Harry Bass - Paul Nugget and others
    2. Gene Gardner - Bill Nagle
    3. DL Hansen - John Brush, formerly Barry Stuppler ($20 Saints) and others
    4. Oliver Jung - Joe O’Connor
    5. Bruce Morelan - Laura Sperber
    6. Eric P. Newman - Burdette Johnson
    7. Mack Pogue - David Akers
    8. Brent Pogue - Richard Burdick
    9. Bob Simpson - Laura Sperber
    10. Tyrant - John Dannreuther (US), Ira Goldberg (ancients)
  • PerfectionPerfection Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    I just looked at the Simpson auction. it is very odd that only 14 coins are CAC. That makes NO sense.
    Were most of the coins upgraded? That does not sit well with me and many others. If Simpson has integrity and love coins, why is he upgrading? For the money? That is absurd and sad. Does he really understand CAC or is he just another coin lover
    with lots of money? I see zero change that Laura who purchased many of not all of these coins would only get 14 CAC. No way Jose.

  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 13, 2020 11:22AM

    @Perfection said:
    I just looked at the Simpson auction. it is very odd that only 14 coins are CAC. ... If Simpson has integrity and love coins, why is he upgrading?

    CAC is for those who can't grade or who have small egos.
    Hansen doesn't care about beans either.

    You started it >:)
    Next time maybe don't use the word 'integrity'.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Perfection said:
    I just looked at the Simpson auction. it is very odd that only 14 coins are CAC. That makes NO sense.

    Don't be surprised if more of the coins don't have green beans by the time of the auction. That's what happened with the first Simpson sale.

    @Perfection said:

    Were most of the coins upgraded? That does not sit well with me and many others. If Simpson has integrity and love coins, why is he upgrading? For the money? That is absurd and sad. Does he really understand CAC or is he just another coin lover
    with lots of money? I see zero change that Laura who purchased many of not all of these coins would only get 14 CAC. No way Jose.

    If you have a problem with coins being upgraded, don't blame the collector. Blame the TPGs.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ReadyFireAim said:

    @Gazes said:
    Very interesting comments today from Laura in her market report about Simpson's interview

    Link...
    https://www.legendnumismatics.com/market_reports/kaboom/

    TIME TO SET THINGS STRAIGHT-SIMPSON

    There is a video interview of Mr Simpson on a certain web site. It discusses Mr Simpsons desire for coins and how acquired them. The video is NOT truthful. due to a little editing.

    Mr Simpson clearly is one of the top coin collectors in the world. Working with him was one heck of a journey.

    We wish to note that Mr Simpson did NOT buy coins himself-it was a team effort. We are certain over 99% of the collection consisted of coins we found, vetted, and offered him. We delivered the $36 Million dollar South West Pattern collection and did all the leg work. We’re the ones who found coins like the $20 1865 Gold pattern worth millions or a deal of 50C 1877 Patterns. Further we were 100% his eyes and buyers at EVERY major auction (we would use his bidder card). He started some of his collections on our suggestion.

    Legend Numismatics was Bob Simpsons ONLY dealer since he came back into coins in 2001.

    We were never given a list or speech of how he wanted his coins, He knew we were the right people to build the set he wanted. The only part of the video with some truth-the man actually does know something about grading and he craves great eye appeal.

    We are extremely proud of the collection we built for him and don’t like being kicked to the curb. Its kinda rough that its really not the right time for him to be selling, but it is what it is. Some of the worlds greatest coins are now coming back and are giving many collectors new opportunities. We just want it clarified that Legend Numismatics exclusively built his collection and worked very closely with him all these years. Other people are just day dreaming.

    My issues with this:

    (1) publicly disparages her client who made her a lot of money - poor form and reflects her insecurity ("kicked to the curb"). I would think this would be unattractive to future potential wealthy clients.

    (2) implies she spoon-fed her client (did he ever reject coins that were presented?).

    Seated Half Society member #38
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    If you have a problem with coins being upgraded, don't blame the collector. Blame the TPGs.

    Simpson likes monster toner saints.
    I can tell you for a 100% fact that JA is all about luster.
    Laura likes whatever makes Laura money & I've heard her promote C-grade coins with and without stickers.
    My opinion is that Simpson's coins are properly graded by the TPG.

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/20-gold-major-sets/st-gaudens-20-gold-major-varieties-circulation-strikes-1907-1932/alltimeset/71312

    No way was this set picking plastic w/ stickers.
    This was very deliberate & painstakingly assembled.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ReadyFireAim said:
    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/20-gold-major-sets/st-gaudens-20-gold-major-varieties-circulation-strikes-1907-1932/alltimeset/71312

    No way was this set picking plastic w/ stickers.
    This was very deliberate & painstakingly assembled.

    This is very impressive. Thanks for posting it!

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What do people think is the most insightful thing about Simpson's interview and is there an area of your collecting that aligns with his?

    I will say that for some medal series, I like to own the finest without too much thought for completeness. When I see something that captures my eye, I like to go for it.

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:
    What do people think is the most insightful thing about Simpson's interview

    Talking about why he's selling, he said "Things need to be where they're loved the most". I feel the same way, to the point where I'll happily sell a coin from my collection if I think the buyer will give it a better, more loving home. (Of course, my inventory is different. I'll those coins to anyone with a good check!)

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2020 2:13AM

    "Collectors are natural hunters, it brings us this great thrill when we locate a coin that fits our collecting goals."

    @Zoins said:
    I like Todd's quote:

    Collectors are natural hunters, it brings us this great thrill when we locate a coin that fits our collecting goals.

    The analogy in that quote adds an interesting twist to the subject at hand. I have known several big game hunters in my time and the trophies on their walls were identified to me and others as from their hunting efforts, not their guide's. That said, I can see how the guides might have a different perspective.

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